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just stumbled on this thread, and fascinating it is too -- a few dubious assertions notwithstanding -- e.g. references to Patrick O'Neill's ''harsh discipline'' and his son John carrying on that with ''Victorian rigour'' -- I was left wondering as to the sources for these statements. That aside, the quality of the research is amazing, and all credit to those who have engaged in it.
My own research has come up with broadly similar results, though there are divergences. Still, that's in the nature of research, I think? For what it's worth it is alleged that when Elizabeth Martin came to Belfast she stayed with relatives on the Ormeau Road. At that stage she'd have been around 11 years old, and apparently was sent to Ireland to avoid the ravages of the American Civil War of 1861-1865. Again, one finds oneself in the minefield of ''family lore.''

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