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Lancashire / Re: Help Finding Marriage and Death Record, Ellen Hughes Jones Owen
« on: Wednesday 22 October 25 22:00 BST (UK)  »
That would confirm that this is the wrong Ellen Owen.

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Lancashire / Re: Help Finding Marriage and Death Record, Ellen Hughes Jones Owen
« on: Wednesday 22 October 25 21:50 BST (UK)  »
I did get the 1924 death certificate for the Ellen Owen you mentioned a month ago. I am attaching it here. It is certainly a possibility, but I'm not sure that I can conclusively say that it is the correct Ellen Owen. While the death took place and is registered in Liverpool, her address is given as Beaumaris. If I could find the marriage record between her and a James Owen, grocer I think I would be more satisfied.

I do find it puzzling that there is no Mr. Owen registered at the address Ellen is living at 1918-1923. She wasn't widowed again according to the 1921 census. Were they estranged and living apart? Did he have a job at sea? I have to confess that I am not very familiar with the ins and outs of UK genealogy. Most of my research has been in the US and Germany. I am often frustrated by the lack of information in UK records!

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Lancashire / Help Finding Marriage and Death Record, Ellen Hughes Jones Owen
« on: Wednesday 22 October 25 16:54 BST (UK)  »
I'm having trouble finding a marriage and death record for one of my ancestors. Ellen Hughes. She was born in Anglessey, Wales on March 22, 1864 (parents Hugh and Jane Hughes). She married William Jones, a joiner, in West Derby on November 24, 1891. They continued to live in the Liverpool area. They had five children, Jane (my great-grandmother), Ellen, Lydia (Ellen and Lydia I believe were later taken from the home and sent to Canada), Owen (died as a child) and Christopher. William died in 1906. Ellen and Christopher were living in Liverpool in the 1911 census. Jane immigrated to America in 1920 and gave her mother's name as Mrs. Owen (address 14 Carrington St). Sure enough Ellen Owen and her son Christopher were living at this address in the 1921 census. Ellen is said to be married, but her husband was not at the address when the census was taken, so I don't know his first name. I looked at the BMD index and found an Ellen Jones marring an Owen in the Toxteth District in 1918. I was sure this must be the match. But it wasn't. It was the first marriage for both of them and they were in their twenties. I've also been unable to find any death record of hers. Does anyone have any tips on how I should proceed in my search? It has been very frustrating. Currently this is one of the few gaps I have in my family history.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: German Church Record Help
« on: Sunday 16 April 23 03:42 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the transcription. This only confirms that I am lousy at reading old German script. I thought one of the names was Sandwisch.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / German Church Record Help
« on: Saturday 15 April 23 02:55 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Is anyone able to make out the names of record 26 of this church record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVN-45C?i=16&cat=1567865

Thanks!

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Question about Jane Jones Birth Certificate - Llanrug
« on: Saturday 08 April 23 19:10 BST (UK)  »
Also reflecting on her age. It did prove difficult tracing her because of her age change from 27 in the UK to 22 in the US. I have to wonder if she just went with it after she got here. The 1930 census also gives information that would be consistent with the 1897 (as opposed to the 1892 birthdate). And her husband, thought it was 1897 when he put was the informant for her 1933 death certificate.

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It took longer than I expected to receive William and Ellen's marriage certificate (almost three weeks in the mail). Anyhow it confirms Ellen's father to be Hugh Hughes, a quarryman, and confirms the censuses that were posted previously above.  Thanks for all your help!

Now I need to work on William who is seeming to be a little more illusive.

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I do! I found Frederick William and all his brothers. For some reason, a lot of the records from Bramsche from around this time were more readable for me.

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Hi Dave,

Thanks for your find - especially the church record. The passenger list has to be the wrong Klausing though, as the Anna Maria Louise Klausing/Clausing that I am looking for had to have come before 1839 as she was married in Buffalo, New York in March 1839. I haven't found any hits that match that criterion.

Matt

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