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Carmarthenshire / Re: Records for Pentre-Ty-Gwyn and Cefnarthen Chapels
« on: Monday 15 September 25 15:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks osprey, willyam and hanes teulu for your help and input.

I should have made it a bit clearer I was searching for the pre-1750 records of Pentre-Ty-Gwyn, plus any of the Cefnarthen records.

The Archives and Records Council Wales's (ARCW) collection which I believe makes up most of the Welsh parish records on both Ancestry and The Genealogist does include post 1750 records for Pentre-Ty-Gwyn. I forgot this and already have the necessary records from Ancestry for that period from Pentre-ty-gwyn.

I know someone who is researching the same family, and they went to Carmarthenshire Archives for the same parish records and were told by staff that most of these records were missing and they believe many years ago they were taken by historians/writers from an Antiquarian Society or something similar for the purpose of writing a book on certain notable families and the records were never returned!

For anyone researching these records, these are the ones which are known to exist which are at the National Library of Wales (NLW). With a small selection from Cefnarthen available at Carmarthenshire.
 
Pentre-ty-gwyn
Baptisms - 1769-1837 (NLW) (ARCW collection - online at Ancestry, Genealogist, etc)
Marriages - 1733 to 1751 (NLW)   
Burials 1734 to 1774 (NLW)

Cefnarthen
Baptisms - 1730 to 1770 (NLW)
Baptisms - 1731-55 (Carmarthenshire Archives)
Burials - 1730 to 1774 (NLW)
Burials - 1731-55 (Carmarthenshire Archives)
Marriages - ??

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Carmarthenshire / Re: Records for Pentre-Ty-Gwyn and Cefnarthen Chapels
« on: Wednesday 03 September 25 13:56 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: gc1 on Wednesday 03 September 25 13:42 BST (UK)
Not sure if this helps but The Genealogist site does have a Welsh Parish Record search. Ive not used it so don't know if its any good or not. Sorry  ??? ???

https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/welsh-parish-records/#ms

I have actually messaged The Genealogist about their non-conformist records to ask if they have Pentre-Ty-Gwyn and Cefnarthen records in their catalogue, as they don't list what records they do have. So it was a good shout gc1!

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Carmarthenshire / Records for Pentre-Ty-Gwyn and Cefnarthen Chapels
« on: Wednesday 03 September 25 12:44 BST (UK)  »
I expect I know the answer to this - but does anyone know if copies of the parish records for Pentre-Ty-Gwyn Chapel and Cefnarthen Chapel are at any location other than the National Library of Wales? Has anyone transcribed them? Or is there a microfiche or cd purchasable with them on?

I suspect the answer is no, and I will have to go to the NLW, but I wanted to check first!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help deciphering name on baptism entry - Jane, Sarah or other?
« on: Wednesday 21 May 25 21:06 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: bethanyyd96 on Wednesday 21 May 25 20:30 BST (UK)
I'm not really sure but I think I see __abeth, the left hand side of the document is not clear at all. Could it be Elizabeth?

Bethany

Thank you Bethany - that was my first thought, but I think the close proximity of the word "the" after the name, makes it look like Elizabeth. i.e. the closeness of the word "the" makes it look like the "th" on the end of the name Elizabeth, rather a separate word.

Zoomed in I now think it might actually be "Sarah" with a bit of an ink blot on the "h" and the words underneath probably "his wife" also being too close to the line above causing the letters of the name to look different than what they are.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help deciphering name on baptism entry - Jane, Sarah or other?
« on: Wednesday 21 May 25 19:56 BST (UK)  »
I'm having trouble deciphering the attached baptism entry. Sadly the entry seems to have been soiled making it very difficult to read the name. Ancestry and Findmypast decipher the daughter's name as Sarah. But there are many people who seemed to have deciphered the name as Jane in their family trees. I'll be honest, I find it difficult to make out any name! So I'm just asking for opinions on what people think the name might be, if that's not possible it would be useful to at least rule out the name Jane. 



What most people seem to agree on is the rest of the entry:

"_________ the daughter of John Bufton & Elizabeth his wife."



For those who may have access to better sources here's the ancestry record details:

Name:   Sarah Bufton
Baptism Age:   0
Record Type:   Baptism
Birth Date:   1765
Baptism Date:   1765
Baptism Place:   Llanfihangel Nant Melan, Radnorshire, Wales
Father:   John
Mother:   Elizabeth

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« on: Monday 01 April 24 16:23 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: bbart on Sunday 31 March 24 05:27 BST (UK)

There are some amazing people here!

Now that they have solved it, here's a clipping for your files:


Thanks for that clipping bbart

It's actually thrown a bit of a spanner in the works because I thought Anne Morgan's (née Williams) father was one of the other famous brothers (David) of Swyddffynnon/Ystradmeurig - not John.

The John Williams of Ystradmeurig, as mentioned in the newspaper clip, has a bio on the Welsh Biography website which lists his children: https://biography.wales/article/s-WILL-JOH-1745 - and Anne isn't one.

Might have to do a bit more research! Thanks again.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help to decipher two lines in a will
« on: Friday 29 March 24 20:22 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Zefiro, MollyC, Raybistre & JenB!

Very helpful, I didn't expect anyone to get the Welsh house name.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help to decipher two lines in a will
« on: Friday 29 March 24 19:58 GMT (UK)  »
I'm trying to establish the relationship of the Morgans named in the attached will to the person who made the will (Thomas Williams). I believe the Morgans might be related to his wife Margaret, but can't be sure.

Here are the lines. I need help with filling in the blanks.

"...I give and bequeath to and among the ____ of my ____ _____ Anne Morgan the widow of the late Reverend Richard Morgan of _________ ______ _____ the sum..."


Thanks in advance for any help you're able to provide.



grandmaster

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Gloucestershire / Re: Need help transcribing a place in Gloucestershire
« on: Saturday 15 April 23 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: hanes teulu on Saturday 15 April 23 19:57 BST (UK)
In '61 Joseph is in Blaenavon. Could this be him in 1856?
Welsh Newspapers
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3396764/3396766/3"joseph%20giles"

Bottom of column 1

Thanks hanes teulu. I have come across that before, it's something I couldn't rule in or out. He's living in Trevethin at the time which isn't too far away, so it could be, although the occupations don't match. I did consider whether criminality is the reason I couldn't find him in the 1841 or 1851 census.

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