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Canada / Re: The MARTIN family of Toronto - they vanish into thin air?...
« on: Monday 21 August 23 23:00 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much for all of this, that's extremely helpful, and very much appreciated.
(And really good to find the probable reason why they didn't appear on the 1931 census; I thought I must be making a mistake with my searches in some way, but couldn't work out what it could be).

Brilliant spot with the 1964 correction to the birthname for Dorothy; I'd seen that record myself but the date of the amendment had *completely* passed me by and so I just assumed it was done soon after the birth - I was so focussed on the name itself.  Thank you again :)

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Canada / The MARTIN family of Toronto - they vanish into thin air?...
« on: Wednesday 16 August 23 21:08 BST (UK)  »
The MARTIN family of Toronto – help please – they seem to just vanish!
I would really appreciate some help with this mystery – the family are:

Joseph Samuel MARTIN born c.1870, Cornwall, England (known as Joseph Samuel and just as Samuel at different times). First emigrated to Canada c.1888

Lillian MARTIN (born c.1868 in the USA (given age can vary quite a bit on her records!) maiden name Lillian SPENCE – She was British and variously gives her birthplace as England / USA on different documents.) Emigrated to Canada between 1901 and 1905.

Samuel and Lillian married in 1913, after having a family together – it appears Samuel had a first marriage (to Annie Jane MCLEAN, m.1895, Toronto) which broke down and he married Lillian after his first wife passed away.

Children:
Twins: Charles and Lillian MARTIN, born August 1906.  It appears Lillian did not survive infancy.
Daughter: Dorothy MARTIN, born 1908, York County, Toronto.

I have this family on the Canadian censuses of 1911 and 1921 (in 1921, they are at 17 Calford Avenue, Todmorden, York Township, Toronto, Ontario).  I even have the Canadian re-entry record (1923) of Samuel returning home to Canada (to the Todmorden address) from England having visited his then very elderly mother Victoria in Cornwall.

But after that – nothing.  Cannot find any of them on the Canadian 1931 census, can’t find any other convincing bmd type records.  What am I missing?

Are there any super sleuths out there who can help?

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Approx date please for this portrait of a griffin woman
« on: Tuesday 30 May 23 23:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi and thank you all for your comments :)

Sorry, there are no further clues on the back of the photo. 

But to cut the file down so it was small enough, it is cropped, and actually the lady is sitting in the garden of a house and the structure you can see is part of a large window. 

We know my husband's grandad Ernest was married twice (1913 & 1930), and this lady is *not* one of his wives - and the photo was in Ernest's photo collection which we have discovered following the passing of his son (i.e. my husband's Dad).  Ernest had a collection which seems to range from about 1900 to about 1940 (we can guess that approximate range because we have worked-out/know who a lot of the people/places in the photos are).  But this photo is a mystery...

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Approx date please for this portrait of a griffin woman
« on: Saturday 27 May 23 22:41 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both for your thoughts - that's given us something to have a ponder about :)

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Approx date please for this portrait of a griffin woman
« on: Thursday 25 May 23 14:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi again to all

Thank you for your help with dating a photo that I posted a few weeks back - I now have another request :)

Would anyone be able to give a date range for the attached photo?  We don't know if the lady is a family member or a friend (girlfriend?) of my husband's late grandfather (lived 1878-1959). A date range would really help with our investigations :)

Many thanks


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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Great Great Aunt Alice (possibly!) - approximate date for this photo, please
« on: Friday 03 March 23 18:50 GMT (UK)  »
Brilliant, thank you.  So much to learn about all this :)

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Great Great Aunt Alice (possibly!) - approximate date for this photo, please
« on: Friday 03 March 23 16:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

Thank you very much for your reply - if it is the late 1890s, then it really probably is Alice and that's super helpful. 

Does anyone have any more thoughts - I've never seen clothing like the eldest child is wearing before, was that usual for the time?  I'm assuming from the rest of the picture it was a studio photo and so am also assuming everyone dressed-up a bit for it.

Many thanks
Mayflower


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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Great Great Aunt Alice (possibly!) - approximate date for this photo, please
« on: Thursday 02 March 23 16:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hello to all,

Would anyone be able to suggest a date for this family group, please?  And possibly suggest roughly how old everyone might be?

From our family research so far, the lady in the picture *might* be Alice, one of five sisters, maiden name Spence, all born between c.1855-1870, (the youngest of whom emigrated to Canada in the early 1900s - if that’s at all relevant). 

If the photo doesn’t fit with a woman born within those dates that would be useful information too.
 
Any insights or thoughts that the photo produces would be really welcome, as it may hold the key to a little family mystery from around a century ago…(related to an illegitimate birth).

Many thanks
Mayflower



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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Adding images to Posting & Profiles - Practice Post
« on: Saturday 25 February 23 13:16 GMT (UK)  »
Just a test... :)




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