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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Certified copies of census records?
« on: Thursday 16 March 23 17:38 GMT (UK)  »
Certifying a census or any document is just certifying that the document is a true copy. Whether or not the census is a reliable source of information is irrelevant for the purposes of certification. This is a document that is commonly requested for jure sanguinis citizenship applications for some countries.

(I would also add that many people were also economical with the truth on marriage and birth certificates, but you can get certified copies of those).


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Did the first husband remain in Scotland? Wondering what his death cert stated about his marital status. Scottish death certs will show name of spouse(s) if known to the informant.

His death record lists him as married to her.

Also have you considered the Catholic Church dimension to the first marriage?

I have, but I wonder if there is any way to find out if there was an annulment. She was of legal age at the time of their marriage and they had several children.

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Where/when did 'the wife' claim to have remarried in 1902, what doc. is this written on?

As you can't find the 1902 marriage & have yet to see the 1915 MC, I'm curious where the info. was found re the 1902 marriage?

I mentioned it in a later post here https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=871198.msg7423824#msg7423824

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Have you sighted the 1915 marriage certificate? How is she listed there? If she is "single" or "widowed", you can presume there almost certainly was no formal divorce.

I've ordered it but it will take a week to arrive. On the 2nd husband's military record it lists her as wife, widow, married reg office 1902. There's a note next to it that says "to be married by English law at the first opportunity" and then the date of the 1915 marriage. So I believe she was never divorced, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions.

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Sorry, I should have mentioned this. The first husband was alive past 1915.

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I am going to pre-apologise because I cannot give details here about the specific records or people involved, I am just asking for advice on how I might be able to find these records myself.

I have a civil marriage that took place in Glasgow in 1883 by Sherriff's Warrant/two witnesses. There is also a Catholic church marriage record from the same day.

In 1902 the wife of that couple claims to have remarried in the Glasgow registry office, but I can find no record of that marriage. Then, in England in 1915 she marries the same man she claimed to have married in 1902 (and there is evidence they were together the entire time, children born with both names on the birth records, etc). This one is an actual marriage as it's listed in the GRO index.

Edit to add: The first husband was still alive at the time of both of these marriages.

On the 1883 civil marriage on ScotlandsPeople there is no note of divorce and no link on the page to the register of corrected entries. Is there another place I can look for divorces?

I'm assuming the 1902 marriage is imaginary, but the 1915 one is real. Would she have been able to get a divorce in England at that time (1900-1915) for a marriage that took place in Scotland? Or is it more likely that there was never any divorce?

Thank you for any help you can offer, and again I am sorry I can't give the names/details of these records.

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Armed Forces / Re: Requesting an overseas military birth record?
« on: Friday 10 March 23 10:05 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, ShaunJ. I've just requested it using your advice.  :)

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Armed Forces / Requesting an overseas military birth record?
« on: Thursday 09 March 23 12:18 GMT (UK)  »
I've found a birth record of interest on FindMyPast in their 'GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)' collection.

Can I request this record on the GRO Application for an Overseas Birth certificate page? Or is there a special area for military births? The reference on FindMyPast is just REG1. There's a volume/page/line, but the GRO page only asks for the GRO reference number.

The birth does not appear in the regular GRO index.

Any suggestions for how to properly request this record from the GRO would be very much appreciated.  :)

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Scotland / Re: Where to find a salmon fisherman in the census?
« on: Sunday 19 February 23 22:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all, I'm sorry for not giving more information, but this is for a project I must research myself so I was just looking for some general information on fishermen around that time. After much searching, I've concluded he was probably in a bothy somewhere and isn't on the census. Thank you for your help!

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