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Dumfriesshire / christy irving- Bank of Hoddam Dumfries
« on: Sunday 22 April 07 16:24 BST (UK)  »
could anyone assist me i am trying to track christy irving listed below from the 1841 census,she does not appear in the 1851 census probably left home.one of the problems is that is her correct name christy or christine/christina/christain.or something else perhaps

James Irving         65      Farm Servant
Mary  Do            65   
Sarah Do            35   Agr Labourer
Christy  Do            15   
James  Do            10   
Mary  *****            2   
   
i am looking for marriage possibly/hopefully she has not died before civil registration            

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Elusive James Caviens-
« on: Saturday 14 April 07 22:54 BST (UK)  »
thanks all for replying-if i could give you some background.you have the right family Monica. Sarah Irving died in 1861 aged given on death certificate 60 so she was born circa 1800. i know that she had a boy John Irving born abt 1845 and he died 1st Nov 1858 at Bush Hoddom. It is possible that Sarah is James Caviens but i am thinking more of the Jannet you mentioned born 24th Sept 1819 Hoddom as the mother of James Caviens.

Christy (listed as female)is another possibility because i cannot trace her either does not appear with family in 1851 census

The james you refered too aged 10 in the 1841 census is listed as female this could be an enumerator mistake or it could be female because later generations are called jamesina(jemima) probably after the grandfather--i hope you can see why i need help to decipher because it is quite complicated and

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Dumfriesshire / Elusive James Caviens-
« on: Saturday 14 April 07 09:37 BST (UK)  »
I am having great difficulty in finding some Irving relatives of mine,but while on a visit to Hoddam cemetery, On a headstone i was looking for was a mention of a boy James Caviens (beware of spelling mistake) I cannot find James in the 1841 census for Dumfries where he would be 11 and living hopefully with his parents, it is his mother i am particulrly trying to find as she must be an irving daughter that i am not aware of -- The monumental inscription is listed below------- can anyone help me unravel this mystery

In memory of John Irving son of James Irving in Bank of Hoddom who died 19th June1807 aged 4 years. Also James Irving his son who died 19th July 1819 aged 2 ˝ years old.Also Mary Turner spouse of James Irving Bush of Hoddom who died 20th March 1843 aged 66 years and James Caviens their grandson who died at Dumfries 13th June 1847 aged 17 years also Mary Irving who died at Bush of Hoddom 22nd May 1897 aged 77 years

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Betsy Irving --cant find burial record
« on: Monday 17 July 06 00:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Gadget

thanks for that i am a member of www.dgfhs.org.uk/ i am sure i have already tried them but will take your advice and try again just in case

kind regards wallace23

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Early Annan Census - look up offer
« on: Monday 17 July 06 00:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi Pam

I am intersted in your kind lookup offer for Annan. I am looking for information on James Irving born abt 1777 married in 1798 in Annan to a Mary Turner. i think their first child was Sarah Irving born abt 1800. Would it be possible for you to have a look for me and see what you can turn up i would be greatly obliged

regards wallace23

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Betsy Irving --cant find burial record
« on: Sunday 16 July 06 23:09 BST (UK)  »
hi gadget

have been in touch with the burial department but im afraid there is no record on any internment of any betsy nutt nee irving on the date or dates around her death.

just hoping someone out there might no something that could help

thanks wallace23

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Dumfriesshire / Betsy Irving --cant find burial record
« on: Sunday 04 June 06 15:55 BST (UK)  »
I cant find any burial record for Elizabeth/Betsy irving can anyone assist.Her death is recorded at Lockerbie. I have the death certificate.Desperate to find where she is buried.



Elizabeth Irving was born Abt 1845 and died 8th February 1914 at Millhill Cottage, Dryfesdale Dumfries.

She was also known as Betsy Irving . She had 3 Children

John  Irving     born  11 May 1873
Jemima  Irving born  19 Dec 1877
James Irving   born   6 April 1879     

It was her son James that recorded her death on the death certificate 8th February 1914

Betsy sometime later married a man named George Nutt who was not the father of any of the childen John,Jemima or James.

George Nutt died 21 March 1899 near Kirkton Cottage Dryfesdale

With reference to Elizabeth Nutt there is a death announcement in
the Annandale Herald of 12th February 1914 which reads as follows:

NUTT.- At Millhill Cottage, Lockerbie, on the 8th inst., Elizabeth Irving,
widow of George Nutt, aged 69 years.


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