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Messages - cwatterson

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Hi Catherine,

I've found the Catholic Parish baptisms, marriages at NLI.ie invaluable for events prior to 1865. From 1865 there are the civil records at irishgenealogy.ie.

For more colour, I've found the newspapers at findmypast.ie crucial. Fortunately there's plenty there about John O'Hart's social calendar even! And involvement with the Irish Teachers (later INTO) - "John Harte" back then. As well as his son's "O'Hart, Cunningham & Co." endeavour with my great-great-grandfather John Cunningham. And the sadder events too, deaths chronicled etc.

Findagrave is really useful, either to provide a starting point to look for corresponding records, or conversely if you have records/newspaper dates, actually get details of the grave, maybe even photographs. Glasnevin Cemetery where some of the family are buried has a pay-per-view site. Again if you have other records already, it helps.

I'd absolutely like to find out more about John O'Hart's immediate relations back then - he writes of some of course in his Irish Pedigrees (available in hard copy or online at the "Internet Archive"). The Last Princes of Tara is a key publication actually on his family. I would hope eventually to pull enough together to expand my current research into a short biography.

As an example I haven't found records relating to his brother Anthony Hart who was a priest around Ballina.

Absolutely fascinating to hear of a connection a generation further back from you, Catherine. I think I may have a photograph of your great-great grandfather Anthony's half-brother, Thomas Hart of Dekalb, Illinois (emigrated 1855, living there in 1880).

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Mayo / Re: McHale of Crossmalina
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 19:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi Danny,

Unfortunately if the birth year was truly 1844, it looks like the baptism record is not available, 1841 skips to 1845 in the records for Crossmolina. However, even though you may need some additional work to verify family links, it is probably worth looking up other McHale baptisms around those years for possible parents/townland for Michael.

For example on page 42 (linked here) there is a Kitty (?), parents James McHale and Mary Mulligan, from it looks like Ballina St? (in the town of Crossmolina itself?). So that might be useful to look into any other records for that family.

If you have a subscription to a site with transcriptions of the baptism records you can search that, but I find it can be useful to scour page by page if you have the parish and time frame. As there are transcription errors or also entries missed. Indeed on one family I was researching, I found the entire series of baptisms in USA transcribed from the family bible into the parish baptism record! (upon family's return to Ireland) A big help verifying (though that's an exceptional find I will absolutely admit!) All the same - definitely worth looking through the pages on nli site.

John O'Hart includes in Irish Pedigrees a genealogy for MacHale of Tubbernavine, down to one of the Archbishops of Tuam, John MacHale (wikipedia article). See PDF on wikimedia (page 232 of PDF) - though the later edition you might find elsewhere expands the footnote on the archbishop's choice of anglicised name.

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Down / Re: Seeking info: McKee
« on: Monday 02 June 25 16:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi Keri,

Regarding McKee, I have been researching the McKees of Creevytenant. Here's an interesting starting point I came across:

 Prof. James Y. McKee of Philadelphia, USA, compiled a volume published in 1892, “A History of the Descendents of David McKee of Anahilt, With a General Sketch of the Early McKees”. This suggests that four McKee brothers who fought with William of Orange’s army settled in Ulster after 1690, including one possibly named Hugh, whose son James, of Tullywest, had a son in turn named Hugh who took up a farm in Creevytenant, according to the account written.

Another son of James McKee, of Tullywest, was Hugh, who got a farm in the townland of Crevytenant, about a mile from his father's towards Ballynahinch, where his great grandson Hugh McKee, who had married a Miss Gill, died childless about the year 1880, and the farm passed out of the family name.

Of course I don't know if these are related to your McKee origins (or indeed the original poster wacha). One of my ancestral families, 4x great-grandmother Agnes died in 1881.

She left a will. In her will of 1878, Agnes left the farm to her sons Hugh and Samuel McKee, subject to payment of legacies of 2/6 (if required) to each of Robert and Alexander McKee, Eliza Douglas and Agnes Smyth, and £10 to be paid in four equal instalments annually to her daughter Mary Gillespie (the first payment to be a year after Agnes’ death). Hugh McKee (junior) and Samuel Law, both of Creevytenant, were appointed as executors. Letters of administration were granted to Samuel McKee on 14th April 1882. I've traced all the named children except no information on Robert McKee (maybe he went to Scotland or USA?)

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Clare / Re: Cunninghams - Labersheeda Clare Ireland
« on: Monday 24 March 25 17:14 GMT (UK)  »
An old thread, but emmaodea111 and others, I am also researching Cunninghams from Clare, but living Turnpike in Ennis at least 1842 to after 1872. Not sure where from originally, though John O'Hart traces his grand-daughter Bessie Cunningham/son-in-law John Cunningham's line back to Rodger/Roady O'Cunnivane born 1680, four generations back from Thomas Cunningham who died 29 November 1869 at Turnpike aged 88 (informant: Mary Cunningham) - transcription from Rootsireland (Deaths Register for Ennis, Co. Clare, 1870, Vol. 4, page 179). From Roady we have Timothy, Darby, Mihil/Michael, Thomas (aforementioned) and then Michael Cunningham (married Mary O'Brien in 1842; likely the Mary Cunningham above).

The four previous names and indeed earlier Anglicisation of O'Cunnivane may be reliable enough given John O'Hart's direct relationship in this case (certainly I imagine he tried to go back further than Rodger). Maybe looking for O'Cunnivanes or variations will help with other Cunninghams in Clare?

I really don't have much to go on besides the descendents around Turnpike and possibly a couple of other Cunninghams as witnesses at births/marriages! Seems likely they didn't have roots all the way back specifically in the Turnpike area of Ennis. I've loads more info if anyone needs it on the events of that particular family from mid-19th C on though.

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Antrim / Re: Can't find a family in 1901 Census despite knowing their address.
« on: Saturday 01 March 25 21:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Leon,

Sometimes it works better dropping "what we know". I searched for Dorothea in 1901 in Antrim as it's not the most common name, and found the family.

They aren't living at 7 Killarney St. (at the time of the census that year) but rather Dagmar St and the family name recorded as McWilson (hindering your search).

Link here to John McGowan Wilson on the new census site.

Entirely possible for the family to have been at 7 Killarney St. either side of the actual census date.

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Down / Re: Patton/Matear/Clegg/Emerson-DONAGHADEE
« on: Friday 14 February 25 21:32 GMT (UK)  »
Regarding Pattons and Donaghadee, probably related to the Pattons of Ballyvester. James Craig, grandfather of the 1st Lord Craigavon, worked for James Patton, who married Agnes Veacock. James Craig improved his station by marrying her sister, Alice Veacock some time 1810s. Would need to check the book again, Craigavon: Ulsterman by St. John Ervine.

One James Patton was witness in 1858 at the wedding (civil record) of their son, James Craig (millionaire Whisky distiller, father of the future Lord Craigavon) to Eleanor Gilmore Brown.

New Zealand connection too - the daughter of the elder James Craig and Alice Veacock, daughter Alice Craig married Samuel Fergie (1864, record) and the couple emigrated to New Zealand. Alice died in NZ in 1905 (grave). Samuel Fergie returned to Donaghadee in his last years , dying with Lizzie Patton present (record).

Alice's sister Eliza Jane married Hutchinson Waugh - their youngest child born 1873 (record) was named Alexander Patton Waugh.

I hope this is of interest or useful to those looking up the Patton family around Donaghadee and links to the Craigs.

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The Common Room / Re: Grandfathers Memoirs
« on: Tuesday 01 October 24 23:05 BST (UK)  »
Good idea about the local studies. For a similar vintage of memoirs (early 20th C memories set down to paper in 1990s), wondering if anyone has done this but left out some of the more personal family commentary? (children/grandchildren of those discussed still about!)

I did transcribe and send on to family members for their reading and records (maybe should have printed out copies!)

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I've found several obituaries with addresses in my own research - crucial nuggets in my case to continue building up a picture (1939 registry request to PRO NI).

If they might have posted a condolence on another family members death during those years, then worth checking - even if the newspaper its published in isn't in NI (just might mention at least they were in a city/town in NI).

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Missed linking findagrave but the others should be linked if I did the markup correctly, hopefully my post was helpful.

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