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Australia / Re: DNA Specialist
« on: Thursday 08 May 25 06:00 BST (UK)  »
You have some very close DNA matches there Dianna.

Do each of those matches match with each other as well as you on the same line?

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Australia / Re: DNA Specialist
« on: Wednesday 07 May 25 10:40 BST (UK)  »
It sounds like you are doing the right thing DNA wise Dianna. It is so frustrating when people don’t reply, and have no trees. All you can do is try again.

Have you uploaded your raw data to My Heritage? A lot of people poo-poo My Heritage but not everyone tests with Ancestry. You need to pay for the extra features but it is probably worth it.

Have you tried tracing as many Wonsons as you can? Maybe make up mini trees for the closest matches?

Don’t be too concerned about not finding any Sanders. Concentrate on the close matches on that branch of the family. Maybe Walter was not the father or there could be a number of other scenarios for why no Sanders show up in your results.

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Australia / Re: DNA Specialist
« on: Wednesday 07 May 25 05:55 BST (UK)  »
I agree with Sue about the terms used. I would go a bit further and suggest that you maybe initially mention the relationship and after that use their full names. For example I was initially confused about who was the father and who was the grandfather. So if you say “my grandfather Walter Sanders and my nan Amy Starr” then after that you could go on and say “Walter and Amy were not married” etc etc.  :)
 
Just to confirm, are you trying to find DNA matches to Walter? You are also looking for documentation to prove relationships?

Did your mother have any siblings? If so, was Walter named as their father as well? I am wondering if your Mum was illegitimate, maybe from a casual relationship, or maybe Walter and Amy married elsewhere and you just haven’t found the marriage certificate yet. If you can’t find them together maybe the relationship was casual, though that does not necessarily prove that was the case.
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Regarding your DNA … did you test with Ancestry, and if so, have you looked at your matches in your mother’s side, as they will be your maternal matches and anyone else who matches with Walter should be there. Maybe use a process of elimination to narrow them down …

Do you have any matches that you are certain are related to Amy? If so, you should be able to look at other matches that you and Amy have in common. Any of the remaining matches who do not match Amy and yourself, should be from Walter’s side of the family.

 I would look at the highest matches to see if any have trees, then look for any places and approximate dates which might tally. Don’t worry too much if the surname is not Sanders as matches can easily come down the female line and they usually change their surname upon marriage. You should contact possible Walter matches in case they know something about him.

Of course it is possible that the family lines died out so there are no descendants to take a DNA test, maybe no one from that family has tested, or maybe they are more distantly related and you don’t share much DNA so are not showing up.

I’m not sure how clear that is. I’m sure you will get help from others who know more about it than I do. I just wanted to give you an idea of some starting points.

Good luck


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: 23andMe declares Bankruptcy
« on: Thursday 01 May 25 01:22 BST (UK)  »
Biggles, I am looking forward to part two of your recent comment. The way I see it Ancestry prey on naive people who don't really know what they are buying. Most people, when I am looking at my matches, seem to think that they are going to be told every ancestor they ever had and where they were all born. That's why you see so many people that have themselves and just their parents in their tree. Their website, judging by the numerous comments of complaint here, is frequently in disrepair.  The price for a test seems exorbitant, even though they are cheaper than a few years ago.

In balance, I'm thoroughly impressed with myHeritage. I first came into contact with them seven or eight years ago when they were doing a pro bono offer, helping people identify adoptions and mysteries in their life. They gave me and tens of thousands of other people, free tests. Their range of statistics is far superior to Ancestry, their support is friendly and courteous and prompt, which you certainly can't say about Ancestry.

A couple of years ago, when I became really enthusiastic, I did pay for an Ancestry test, and was very disappointed that there was no chromosome browser, and no detailed segment data. And now they have the cheek to actually start charging for a little bit more information. I certainly won't be renewing at the end of the month.  I would even be very reluctant to pay for any further ancestry tests in light of my earlier comments. I think this is why they are doing this one month free offer. They are getting desperate.

Zaph

I completely agree with everything you said Zaph. Ancestry DNA was a huge disappointment for me, and is useless without a subscription. I’m not impressed.

I find both FTDNA and My Heritage, especially for European connections, is very good. And in my case, seems fairly accurate.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Pro Tools Offer
« on: Thursday 01 May 25 00:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi,  Thought I'd give it a go but sadly am underwhelmed.  The comparisons it offers are the same as the ones on My Heritage, FTDNA and Gedmatch which are free.  I won 't be investing after the free month.

I agree. This has always been my major gripe with Ancestry. They omit or charge for what others give for “free”. Now it’s even worse since they removed a lot /most of the included features that came with an Ancestry DNA test, rendering it almost useless. I haven’t had any new matches for years, most of those I contacted didn’t reply, so have no real need to sign up to Ancestry again in the foreseeable future. I wonder how the company is faring.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can searcher companies get it wrong !
« on: Friday 11 April 25 09:26 BST (UK)  »
I agree with those who suggest you take a DNA test. In cases such as yours I think a DNA test is especially useful, if not vital.

Yes, Ancestry has the largest database but keep in mind that to get the most out of the results, it is now necessary to pay an ongoing annual subscription, so you can see who you match with.

Without a subscription, what you can see is very limited. If you can afford to do so, take out a subscription once your results come through. There are a couple of threads here on rootschat with a link to a very much reduced offer.

Ancestry also divide your results into paternal and maternal sides, which can be helpful.

If you need more help, don’t hesitate to ask. There are many DNA experts here who will be willing to assist.

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World War Two / Re: Filling in the boxes for Medals Request
« on: Wednesday 09 April 25 00:54 BST (UK)  »
I would give the details you’ve specified here and add that the places and dates are an approximation from what you’ve heard from family members. If there is not enough room, add an asterisk with the explanation at the bottom of the page, or include an additional piece of paper.

Good luck.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: I am so upset .....
« on: Wednesday 26 March 25 07:58 GMT (UK)  »
It’s not Ancestry’s job to educate. They don’t care what people put in their trees, as long as they get subscribers.

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The Common Room / Re: Why do some people...?
« on: Monday 24 March 25 09:21 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Andrew that is a possibility. I have seen trees where name frequency is a problem and it is often solved by adding a number to the name.

I have been tempted to ask why the extra name, but I have found that some people can be very touchy about their trees  :)

Adding the number to the name is often an American thing, in more recent generations at least.

I have no proof nor am I sure of time lines, and it is likely much later than what you are interested in, but I recall reading that using of middle names was something that the wealthy did.

Have you looked at siblings of your person of interest in case middle names were a family tradition of sorts?

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