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London and Middlesex / Re: William De Levante
« on: Saturday 08 October 22 13:17 BST (UK)  »
Massive thanks to Erica CliftonDelevante and Valda for all the information about Masahod and his descendants, it’s helped me greatly on a few places I was really stuck - or very doubtful of Ancestry hints - in my family tree.

Margaret

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London and Middlesex / Re: William De Levante
« on: Saturday 08 October 22 13:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello Joyce / Warkworth,

Did you ever establish if “your” William and Jane Macarthy were one and the same couple as the one who established the theatre in Todmorden in 1851? Or are there two William Macarthys knocking around the same time and place, one married to Jane Delevante/Deville and one to Jane Somethingelse? Doesn’t always help certainty when Macarthy is sometimes (mis)spelled as McCarthy or indeed Macarte (which I suspect was an actorly affectation possibly inspired by the Macarte dynasty of circus entertainers?!).

Like your husband, I’m a direct descendant of Emily Florence (Macarthy) Wareing, and have followed her and her parents William Macarthy (born Bristol) and Jane Delevante (born Hoxton, London) through the censuses up to Yorkshire and Lancashire - and finally for Jane to Northumberland with a second husband Noble. I thought I’d found the death certificate for “my” William in St. Helens, but am now wondering if this might be the “other William” who established the Todmorden theatre? Hence me asking about your research. Details on the death certificate I have are: 27th Nov 1864 Cross Street St. Helens, William McCarthy, 53 years, stagemanager at theatre, enteritis 3 days certified. At that time, the Theatre Royal in St. Helens (now the Citadel) was on Cross street, so seems like this William died at work (the show must put go on!)??

Anyway, perhaps after I’ve made 3 posts and can then PM people, we could be in touch - I must be some sort of cousin of your husband (my grandmother was Emily’s daughter Beatrice) - I have some certificates that may be of interest unless you got them yourself, as well as some old family portraits of Emily Florence and the Wareings, including the grand old dame Jane (Delevante) Macarthy herself.

Margaret

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London and Middlesex / Re: William De Levante
« on: Thursday 06 October 22 17:01 BST (UK)  »

Im a gt-great nephew of Alfred Wareing who married Emily Florence Macarthy in 1877, and have a copy of their marriage certificate. My Dad said the theatre was in our blood and Ive always thought that they were Jewish. Incidentally the details for Alfreds father are incorrect on his marriage certificate. The Delavante connection is fascinating, I would love to know more!
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Hello Waterking,

Alfred Wareing is my great grandfather, so I guess we are some kind of distant cousin!? My grandmother was Alfred and Emily Florence’s eldest daughter, Beatrice Agnes Wareing (who married Francis McGrath). Would love to know your line to Alfred if you don’t mind sharing. Otherwise, I’d be interested in any information you have regarding Alfred after his birth (I have his birth certificate & 1851 census) and before his marriage to Emily Florence in 1877 (I have their marriage certificate on its way to me in the post and his life in Birmingham is well documented). In particular, I’d like to definitively track down his father, William Wharing/William Waring/William Nash Waring? a printer from West Bromwich? I have a marriage certicate for William Waring and Jane Davis (1848 West Brom) in the post but don’t know if it’s the right William and Jane. I suspect Alfred’s father deserted Alfred’s mother, Jane Davis/Davies hence why she is living with her pauper mother in the barracks/poorhouse in Leintwardine in 1951?

I’ve got some old family portraits of the Wareings I could share with you at some point, as well as a short anecdote from my uncle (Michael McGrath) about of his grandfather Alfred.

Thanks in advance,
Margaret

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