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Australia / Re: Albert E Webb
« on: Monday 28 July 25 01:09 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: PatLac on Monday 14 July 25 02:28 BST (UK)

Have you managed to rule out this one?

   Name:   Age at Death (in years): 
   WEBB, ALBERT  EDWARD     53 
GRO Reference: 1926  M Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 247

There were 2 deaths in Portsmouth of AEWebbs in 1926; this one is disqualified from being "mine" b/c his death was reported by his brother and the initials don't match anybody in my family. The other one has a long stable history (via census) in Portsmouth with a large family that would implausibly overlap my target's life history in London & Brighton

It really reinforced for me how many AEWebbs there have been...

Thks

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Australia / Re: Albert E Webb
« on: Tuesday 22 July 25 11:52 BST (UK)  »
double plus thanks - i'll have to be a bit more systematic, i think. it's a needle in a haystack really… but you can't be lucky by not trying :)

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Australia / Re: Albert E Webb
« on: Tuesday 22 July 25 08:53 BST (UK)  »
Now in front of the computer :-)

Attached is my notes from the 1901 census; they're a bit cryptic, but these are the Ancestry returns for a broad name search on Albert Edward Webb, born 1872 </- 5 years, in Middlesex. Those entries that DONT have an exclusion note is because they can be definitely linked to people other than him in the 1891 census. I've done the same for 1911 & 1921 with the same lack of success. So, I'm fairly confident he either left the country OR majorly changed his identity. In the latter case, I'm stuck until DNA turns up something, but in the former, it MIGHT be possible to track him down; I've found that obituaries in particular can turn up a lot of details & may even confess to past families.

Hence my interest in the Ortona passenger list.

I am also checking into the 1926 death certificates mentioned by PatLac (there were two, I discovered) in the interests of i-dotting but based on the census research, I'm not optimistic.

I note that Maddys52 turned up a couple of Australian candidates (even if they ended up with the wrong parents) in the blink of an eye; I know I've done some searching in the Australian records, but I don't remember them, so perhaps I should revisit that option. BDM is state-based, right? Maybe I missed a couple of them. I know I looked at the Ryerson index, but to no avail.

No Y-DNA matches have turned up, but that doesn't mean a lot unfortunately. And so far none of the autosomal test results have made a connection that leads back to Albert (his brothers & his wife, yes).

I'll update again when the death certificates turn up. Meantime, if anyone has advice on Australian resources, I'm certainly not au fait with them; most of what I've done has been UK-based to date


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Australia / Re: Albert E Webb
« on: Monday 14 July 25 10:20 BST (UK)  »
so, this is really 2 questions, isn't it… one about the guy on the boat, and the other about my great-grandfather. Honestly, i've almost given up on him, but in addition to the stuff already posted, i can say he was in the 1881 census at 56-58 St Jude St, Kingsland, but somehow the house got left off the 1891 census, so he doesn't appear on that. Already a slippery beggar :-)

The he & Polly married in 1892, had 2 children die under a month old at 77 Shacklewell Lane (he is a master butcher on the b/c.s), decamped to Brighton, where my grandfather was born. He was a journeyman butcher when he registered that birth. Then Polly registered the 1897 birth herself & in the 1901 census is head of house.

i did a ton of searching during Covid for AEWebbs in the 1901 & 1911 census and i'm pretty sure i was able to connect ALL of them to an 1891 entry, i.e. not my g-g/father. But, you know, proving a negative is hard and i was just starting then…

i have just assumed since then that he either left the country or changed his name. (i looked at 1921 when it came out, but cursorily, b/c i'd more-or-less decided he had gone)

The topic person of this post is my last loose end before i decide whether to do it all over again, say, with a different census provider.

Or wait for some DNA luck.

When i get home next week i'll try and respond to the individual suggestions, but a couple of them look new, so that's interesting

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Australia / Re: Albert E Webb
« on: Monday 14 July 25 09:14 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: PatLac on Monday 14 July 25 00:52 BST (UK)
I was just looking at his birth record  ;D

WEBB, ALBERT  EDWARD     SPARROW 
GRO Reference: 1870  J Quarter in WELLS  Volume 05C  Page 610

Sorry, i realise that i should have shared more - thanks for all pitching in. Attached is the GRO reference for his birth certificate. i'll update a bit later, i'm on the road and computer-less

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Australia / Re: Albert E Webb
« on: Sunday 13 July 25 22:16 BST (UK)  »
Actually, i know the origins of my grandfather (born Jan. 1895 in Brighton, UK, father Albert Edward Webb, butcher, mother born Mary May Todd). But my grandfather always said he didn't have a father, and in the 1901 census grandfather was living with his sister and mother, who described herself as head of house & independent means. It looks like great-grandpa did a runner… This query is a promising candidate, as it would explain why i can't find him in the 1901 (or subsequent) census, but very speculative at this stage, It was a common name.;

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Australia / Albert E Webb
« on: Sunday 13 July 25 12:23 BST (UK)  »
I found an Albert E Webb on the passenger list of the Ortona (see attached newspaper clipping dated Jan 4, 1900; the official list has the Albert).

But I cannot find any subsequent trace of him in Australia; no death certificate & no outgoing passenger lists. Nor did I find that he married anybody or sired any children. I suppose it's possible he hung around until he was able to fly out, but what I'm really hoping is that I've made some rookie error.

(There was an Albert Edward Webb, butcher, in Tasmania at about the same time, but he was born there).

Any advice, suggestions or brainwaves appreciated. He MIGHT have been my great-grandfather...or again, he might not ::)


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World War One / Re: British Army in India - WW1
« on: Tuesday 29 April 25 22:54 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Andy J2022 on Tuesday 29 April 25 08:35 BST (UK)
Technically speaking there were very few elements of the British Army in India at that time.

These are the ones i am interested in. i thought being only a few would make It relatively easy, but in actuality they get swamped. Thanks for that Wikipedia link, it's good background, a lot i didn't know.

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World War One / British Army in India - WW1
« on: Tuesday 29 April 25 03:46 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for detail on what the British army was doing in India during WW1, and in particular which regiments were where & when.

As I understand it, there are two different "projects"; one is supporting the war in Mesopotamia (about which I have read a fairly detailed book - but inevitably simplified to fit into itself) and the other is dealing with opportunistic uprisings motivated more-or-less by the belief that the European war was a handy distraction. This is the topic I am most interested in but I am really struggling to get started. I spent a happy hour with a librarian in the BL when their computers weren't publicly available, but the two of us could find nothing in that time.

I feel somebody somewhere knows something about this...

I'm sure it's an enormous topic, but how to start?

thanks in anticipation

 

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