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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Friday 19 August 22 17:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information. I have not tried LivingDNA. Will do! Thanks
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Wednesday 10 August 22 06:46 BST (UK) »
I have never seen a baptism record for Bridget or for John. Thanks, Lilli
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Tuesday 09 August 22 22:33 BST (UK) »
Is Ballyshurdane a possibility?
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Tuesday 09 August 22 15:55 BST (UK) »
Bridget was 30 years old in the 1860 Federal census. Living in Greely, Elk Township, Delaware County, Iowa with husband John Welch and 3 children.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Tuesday 09 August 22 15:42 BST (UK) »
Check out this record I found on the Ancestry mobile app
https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/29853012?h=871b89
https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/29853012?h=871b89
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Tuesday 09 August 22 02:37 BST (UK) »
I'm still trying. I was looking at the Ireland, Catholic Pari a h Registers. National Library of Ireland. Page 121 of 185 shows January 4, 1841 baptism .
Portalaise, Maryborough
Same link shows page 136 of 185, January2, 1843 Catherine baptism, daughter of John Welch and Bridget Hennessy.. Can anyone read that location?
Again, same link shows p 151 of 185. March 2, 1845 Mary, daughter of John Welch and Bridget Hennessy
Again, p.161 of 185 shows October 11, 1846 baptism for John of John Welch/Bridget Hennessy.
If anyone sees anything here, please let me know. I'm still trying to learn. Thanks, Lilli
Portalaise, Maryborough
Same link shows page 136 of 185, January2, 1843 Catherine baptism, daughter of John Welch and Bridget Hennessy.. Can anyone read that location?
Again, same link shows p 151 of 185. March 2, 1845 Mary, daughter of John Welch and Bridget Hennessy
Again, p.161 of 185 shows October 11, 1846 baptism for John of John Welch/Bridget Hennessy.
If anyone sees anything here, please let me know. I'm still trying to learn. Thanks, Lilli
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Tuesday 09 August 22 02:21 BST (UK) »Baptism and marriage registers for date from May and April 1826 respectively. If John was born in Maryborough parish before May 1826 there won't be a record of his baptism.[/center]However, if he had younger siblings born there, they may be in the register.Hello All. I am Deb's cousin, Lilli. I am also interested in finding John and Bridget. The answer to one question is that our DNA did link us to Thomas and Bridget Cleary Hennessy.
One other interesting story in this is that spoken family lore is that John Welch was said to have been from Maryborough, Queens County. There was also a word in there that looked like "Ballynorman" but recently I am wondering if it could be Ballyporeen..?
Welcome Lilli.
Thanks for that information.
It explains why Deb posted a page of handwritten transcriptions of Walsh baptisms in 1826 & 1827 from a Maryborough register. See reply 32 by dwelch (Deb) and my response in reply 35. I think they are on page 3 of the thread.
Link to the page for Maryborough R.C. parish in National page of Catholic Registers collection online:
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0714
Variant form of parish name Portlaoise. A map shows location of Maryborough parish and outlines of other parishes in the county and outlines of other counties. You can zoom in & out of the map. County Laois is next to County Tipperary. Tipperary is a large county in area and the only one in Ireland which was divided into Ridings (divisions of a county for local purposes).
Baptism and marriage registers for Maryborough date from May and April 1826 respectively. If John was born in Maryborough parish before May 1826 there won't be a record of his baptism. However, if he had younger siblings born there, they may be in the register.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Sunday 07 August 22 05:39 BST (UK) »
I have been trying to figure out how to send you the records that I have found. Spent today searching for more info. I think I have John and Bridget, but then also realized that the dates for the families are all over from 1830's to 1860's, and that just isn't possible. I took screenshots. Is there any way to send those to you?
I found a marriage, and several baptism records. The DNA really did not take me any further back than the generations of the Welch family in Iowa. They are all my cousins and people that I know, or.can trace back to someone I know.
Thanks again,Lilli
I found a marriage, and several baptism records. The DNA really did not take me any further back than the generations of the Welch family in Iowa. They are all my cousins and people that I know, or.can trace back to someone I know.
Thanks again,Lilli
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA & STILL A BRICK WALL
« on: Friday 05 August 22 04:04 BST (UK) »
I am interested in Michael Welch, Elk, Delaware County 1860. He seems to be almost too good to not be John 's brother. I had seen him, but didn't get to follow up
There was also a Welch family in Clinton County around that same time. I am using my phone to message you.My laptop isn't fond of my location in the boondocks. So, my access to records is limited.
In the last year, I have begun to wonder if perhaps John Welch had a criminal past, or was adopted. Perhaps he isn't who he said he was? Our DNA doesn't show much on the Welch side of the family. Debbie, another cousin and I have searched in vain for 30+ years. I am hoping someone here can make it happen. Perhaps that will be through Michael.
Another thought, would Bridget have married in her own parish at Lisvernane? Seems logical, but I don't know how/where to search for that. That's all for tonight on this tiny phone! Thanks again, Lilli
There was also a Welch family in Clinton County around that same time. I am using my phone to message you.My laptop isn't fond of my location in the boondocks. So, my access to records is limited.
In the last year, I have begun to wonder if perhaps John Welch had a criminal past, or was adopted. Perhaps he isn't who he said he was? Our DNA doesn't show much on the Welch side of the family. Debbie, another cousin and I have searched in vain for 30+ years. I am hoping someone here can make it happen. Perhaps that will be through Michael.
Another thought, would Bridget have married in her own parish at Lisvernane? Seems logical, but I don't know how/where to search for that. That's all for tonight on this tiny phone! Thanks again, Lilli
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