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The Common Room / Re: Help please - very confused!!!
« on: Sunday 14 September 25 16:20 BST (UK)  »
1881 has a Mar William Greenhill in London, occp Stamper, born c 1819 Birmingham.

1881 Mary Ann Greenhill is saying she is widowed.

Great, thank you, I'll look into this :-)

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The Common Room / Re: Help please - very confused!!!
« on: Sunday 14 September 25 16:19 BST (UK)  »
Can see just 1 death for a William Greenhill correct age & place.
Died 15/12/1890 Erdington Workhouse aged 69.
Possibly the 2nd. marriage was bigamous.

Hmm interesting, if it was bigamous that would make sense of why they said they were bachelor and spinster

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The Common Room / Re: Help please - very confused!!!
« on: Sunday 14 September 25 16:18 BST (UK)  »
What county are we looking at here?
I presume England?

Oops really sorry, that would be of some help wouldn't it? All this took place in the Aston area of Birmingham

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The Common Room / Help please - very confused!!!
« on: Sunday 14 September 25 12:16 BST (UK)  »
I have been researching my husband's great great grandmother Harriet Terry, but have got very confused in doing so!
The only birth we managed to find was a Harriet Lawrence (mother's maiden name Terry) for the birth year of 1846. This matches a baptism for a Harriet Lawrence Terry with parents Henry Lawrence and Mary Ann Terry but it says to a single woman so they obviously weren't married.
The birth certificate says that the mother is Mary Ann Lawrence (formerly Terry) although there is no marriage record.
Harriet's marriage certificate says that her father's name was William Terry (a stamper). We then found a marriage for Mary Ann Terry to William Greenhill (a stamper) so presume she has named her step-father rather than her biological father.
Then to confuse matters even more, Harriet aged 5 is living with her grandparents (1851 census) - Samuel and Ann Terry. We can't find her anywhere on the 1861 census.
Then in 1887 we found a marriage for Mary Ann Terry to Henry Lawrence (Harriet's biological parents) , but it says they were bachelor and spinster! Brain frazzled  ???

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Warwickshire / Re: Samuel Greenway and Alice Keeling
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 18:55 BST (UK)  »
Great thank you, I've got a free trial for FindMyPast at the moment but nothing is showing up... Must try harder  ;D

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Warwickshire / Re: Samuel Greenway and Alice Keeling
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:50 BST (UK)  »
8 Oct 1694 licence . Samuel Greenway wid of Kingsbury and Barbara Orton sp. Se is of Little (Parva) Packington. There's a Timothy Orton mentioned - farmer) - possibly bondsman. My Latin's a bit rusty

Where did you find this please?

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Warwickshire / Re: Samuel Greenway and Alice Keeling
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:36 BST (UK)  »
There's a Barbara and Timothy Orton (brother and sister) baptised at Orton on the Hill, about 8 miles from Kingsbury. Barbara's baptism 15 Mar 1667, so age would be in the right area. Parents Richard and Martha

Fabulous, I'll look into this too :-)

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Warwickshire / Re: Samuel Greenway and Alice Keeling
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 17:35 BST (UK)  »
On the image of Mary's baptism, 7 Feb 1694/5 it has daughter of Samuel & .......  (leaving space to add mother's name). If Samuel and Barbara were married in Oct 1694, Mary would have been conceived before marriage.

As to the illeg birth - odd to call a daughter Samuel Greenway! Could there be more one Samuel Greenway of an age to father children, I seem to have found more SG burials than expected in the early 1700s.

And now the will
dated 30 Jan 1730, but could really be 1731.
Mentions:
Eldest son Keeling Greenway, and grandchildren, Anne, Jane, Alice and Keeling, children of said son Keeling
Son John
Son William
Daughter Martha Neal
Daughter Sarah Green
Daughter Mary Brown
Grandson Samuel Greenway
Grandson William Greenway (he doesn't say who the father(s) of these two are and they may not be brothers, but first cousins)
Grandsons John and Samuel Brooks (These two definitely brothers as he says if either dies before he attains age 16 his share goes to the surviving brother)

Residue goes to Son Robert Greenway who is also executor

ADDED
Just noticed that it says the Brookes brothers are the children of his deceased daughter Elizabeth Brookes.

Samuel's children with Alice seem to be Keeling 1683, Samuel 1684 (possible burial 1710), Robert 1686 and Alice 1688.
Alice might have married John Coton in 1707. and had five children. Pos burial for John in 1721 and for Alice (widdow) on March 10th 1726. But unless the Coton children all also died before the will was written, I'm surprised they're not mentioned like the Brookes boys

ANOTHER AMENDMENT
The daughter I listed as Sarah Green is Sarah Greenway  (way is at beginning of next line), so not married in 1730, could be the sarah who married Joseph Capernhurst on 05 Mar 1735.

But who is Mary Brown, the only Mary Greenway marriage in right area at the right sort of time is to Moses Joben in 1716

Wow all this info is amazing, thank you so much! Could Mary Brown be the illegitimate child - it mentions a Dorothy Brown as the mother? Maybe the mention of Samuel in that entry is for the father's name?

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Warwickshire / Re: Samuel Greenway and Alice Keeling
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 12:43 BST (UK)  »
The Greenways look quite well off, judging by the will left when  Samuel died in 1732,

Was this on Ancestry or FindMyPast?




on FindMyPast

ok that's why I haven't seen it, thank you

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