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England / Re: Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Thursday 17 November 22 22:55 GMT (UK)  »
Good evening,

I have the GRO records!

Charley and Henry Minns
These are two twins born on the 28th March 1866 in Winning, Newburn, Northumberland, England. They are the sons of Thomas Hills and Eliza (foremerly Minns).

They are most likely not related to my family line, but part of my does wonder if there was an issue with surnames. Thomas Hills may be Thomas Kelly, and Eliza Minns may be Eliza Maloney. Perhaps a reach too far... I've not been able to locate either boy on later census, nor death records. And there is similarly nothing for a marriage Hills/Minns marriage record.

Sarah Bridget Kelly
This looks to be correct, Sarah Bridget is the daughter of Thomas Kelly and Eliza Maloney. Born in October 1867, Newsham, Blyth. 

Matthew/Mark Kelly
I also did some digging for the eldest boy, Matthew, listed as a son of Thomas and Eliza. According to the 1871 census and his death record, he was born in Thornley in 1864. Interestingly, i found no record for a Matthew Kelly - but two GRO records for a Mark Kelly born in Thornley in 1864.

One Mark was born on the 24th September 1864 to a Matthew Kelly and Eliza Maloney (birth registered 29th September 1864). The second Mark was born on the 26th September 1864 to a Mark Kelly and Eliza Maloney (birth registered 2nd November 1864).... Not sure what this means, a clerical error?

I have a marriage certificate from 1863 for a Matthew Kelly and Eliza Maloney in Co. Durham. Mark is listed as being 16 years old than Eliza, so this definitely isn't a case of Thomas using a different/middle name.

Be interesting to hear all your thoughts on these new clues! I'm happy to post the birth records if of use/interest.

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England / Re: Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Tuesday 08 November 22 14:23 GMT (UK)  »
I can't thank you all enough, this has opened up so many new potential leads and ideas!

Eliza Maloney's age relative to Thomas Kelly's moves a lot over the years, and I believe she may have been older than him when they married. So the potential that she was married prior and had issue holds some weight.

The GRO must be very happy today, as I have just ordered a number of birth certificates (including those for Charles and Henry Hills). I will update here with results when they arrive.

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England / Re: Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Monday 07 November 22 15:54 GMT (UK)  »
This is very interesting, following that line I've been able to find transcribed baptism records for Sarah which also show a late baptism on the same day in May 1880. I wonder why this might have been!

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England / Re: Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Monday 07 November 22 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Debra, I noticed that issue also.

The John Henry baptismal record lists Thomas Kelly and Eliza Maloney as his parents. But if his brother Charles was born on the same day/year, there should have been a record for his baptism as well...

I've not found GRO or Baptismal records for Matthew or Charles, so perhaps they may have been informally adopted?

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England / Re: Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Monday 07 November 22 11:23 GMT (UK)  »
Of course wivenhoe.

The writing is not very legible in the records but to the best of my ability I have found baptism records for the following children. They were baptised at Our Lady & St Wilfred Roman Catholic Church, Blyth:

John Henry: born 13 March 1868 and baptised 30th April 1868. Godparents: John Maloney and Brigitta (Bridget?) Maloney

Eliza: born 27 February 1869 and baptised 10th April 1869. Godparents John Flood and Margarita (Mary) Holmes (sp).

William: born 27 December 1870 and baptised 5 February 1871. Godparents Jacob Hardy and Catherine M'Namara (sp)

John Kelly: born 20th August 1872 and bapisted 29 September 1872. Godparents James (sp) Kenney and Catherin Kenney

Thomas: born 11th November 1874 and baptised 13 December 1874. Godparents Patrick Melie/Meliu and Bridget M'namara.

Margaret Ann: born 20th June 1876 and baptised 1 July 1876. Writing difficult but godparents Edward Melie/Meliu (sp) and Anna M'Pherson.

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England / Re: Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Monday 07 November 22 10:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi John, I believe that is the correct Thomas, as later census' mark him as being born in Ponteland. I've ordered both his and John's birth certificates, but not sure if that will help much.

I'm struggling on the 1861 census to locate him as well. They are an elusive couple!

Thanks everyone for your help so far.

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England / Re: Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Monday 07 November 22 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
Morning,

I have found a mixture of census, GRO, and baptismal records for 10 children. I can't find the older children on GRO, but I have found a baptismal record for John Henry born in 1868 which lists Thomas Kelly and Eliza Maloney as his parents.

The children are:

Matthew born 1864
Charles born c1866
John Henry born 1868. I have found his
Sarah born c.1868
Elizabeth born c.1869
William born c.1871
John born c.1873
Thomas born 1874
Margaret Ann born 1876
Stephen born 1879

Heywood: I suppose the adults may have converted after marriage, but for the records I have located, all children are bapitsed as Catholics.

The family move to Mount, Usworth on the 1881 census.


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England / Eliza Maloney - Lost Marriage Records c.1860s
« on: Sunday 06 November 22 22:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I have reached a brick wall for about 5 months researching my ancestor, Eliza Kelly (nee Maloney). Any help would be much appreciated!

Her date of birth seems to be c.1840-1845, born in Galloway Ireland. The first time I can find her on records is the 1871 England census, where she appears as the wife of Thomas Kelly in Blyth, Northumberland.

I don't hold out much hope of a birth record, but I would love to locate a marriage record for her and Thomas. From the 1911 census they are recorded as being married 49 years, which would mean they married around c.1862-1864.

I have found one record that records an Eliza Maloney marrying a Kelly in Houghton-le-Spring in January 1863, but that is for a Mark Kelly who is born in 1829. Thomas was born c.1845.

Both Eliza Maloney and Thomas Kelly are Catholic if useful.
Sophie

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1871 Census Address
« on: Saturday 23 July 22 13:58 BST (UK)  »
Ah, apologies for not attaching the image! Thank you Ambly for pointing everyone in the right direction.

Thank you all so much for your help!! I was tearing my hair out trying to read the text. Staniford Dam looks correct. Looking forward to being able to do more research now this door is open.

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