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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Request for lookup Manchester Cathedral 1832 please
« on: Sunday 04 November 12 15:55 GMT (UK) »
Great. Thanks again.
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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Request for lookup Manchester Cathedral 1832 please
« on: Sunday 04 November 12 03:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for that Mo.
I'm just getting back into this after a break, and am not up to speed with the "new improved" IGI yet - can you tell me how you knew that marriage was from St Johns please? I tried following the batch/film number but to no avail.
I'm just getting back into this after a break, and am not up to speed with the "new improved" IGI yet - can you tell me how you knew that marriage was from St Johns please? I tried following the batch/film number but to no avail.
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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Request for lookup Manchester Cathedral 1832 please
« on: Saturday 03 November 12 18:55 GMT (UK) »
I'm sure I posted this yesterday, but I can't find it now 
Apologies if I'm repeating myself!
I have a marriage from the IGI which only states Manchester - no specific church is given, so before I can order a copy from Manchester Archives I need to confirm whether or not it took place in the cathedral.
I'd be very grateful of a lookup if anyone has access to the cathedral records please.
The entry in question is the marriage of Samuel Slack & Ann Holmes on 27 Nov 1832.
Many thanks
Mark
Apologies if I'm repeating myself!I have a marriage from the IGI which only states Manchester - no specific church is given, so before I can order a copy from Manchester Archives I need to confirm whether or not it took place in the cathedral.
I'd be very grateful of a lookup if anyone has access to the cathedral records please.
The entry in question is the marriage of Samuel Slack & Ann Holmes on 27 Nov 1832.
Many thanks
Mark
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The Common Room / Re: English Ancestry
« on: Saturday 08 September 12 07:45 BST (UK) »
Its perfectly common.
I have to go back to the twelfth century to find my first known non English-born ancestor (www.genealogy.mallen.org.uk/407390760-AlanLaZouche.html).
Of course all the lines where I'm stuck in the 16th/17th/18th century may have far more recent ones, but as the majority are all families that have been in the same small villages in the Peak District from then to now (and usually with other people of the same surname living thereabouts much earlier), I don't think its too likely.
I have to go back to the twelfth century to find my first known non English-born ancestor (www.genealogy.mallen.org.uk/407390760-AlanLaZouche.html).
Of course all the lines where I'm stuck in the 16th/17th/18th century may have far more recent ones, but as the majority are all families that have been in the same small villages in the Peak District from then to now (and usually with other people of the same surname living thereabouts much earlier), I don't think its too likely.
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The Common Room / Re: Internet Pedigrees
« on: Sunday 06 May 12 14:42 BST (UK) »
A good reminder, especially to anyone relatively new to the hobby.
It cannot be stressed too often - never believe anything that a third party says about a family link. Always strive where possible to confirm it with primary (or at least good non-partisan secondary) sources.
Pedigrees by heralds, such as from the visitations, are not guaranteed just because they were "official". Without further evidence my rough rule of thumb is to place some degree of trust in any information on people that were alive during, or very soon before, the lifetime of the claimant (i.e. usually back to grandparents or sometimes great grandparents). Anything earlier than that is simply a potential lead to further research.
It cannot be stressed too often - never believe anything that a third party says about a family link. Always strive where possible to confirm it with primary (or at least good non-partisan secondary) sources.
Pedigrees by heralds, such as from the visitations, are not guaranteed just because they were "official". Without further evidence my rough rule of thumb is to place some degree of trust in any information on people that were alive during, or very soon before, the lifetime of the claimant (i.e. usually back to grandparents or sometimes great grandparents). Anything earlier than that is simply a potential lead to further research.
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Derbyshire / Re: Ashford in the Water Birth/Baptism Lookup Please
« on: Saturday 05 May 12 05:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Dissman
The Ashford PR transcript that I have (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/ValNealCDs.html#Ashford) only has a few Bland entries as follows:
24/3/1689 baptism of William, son of Thomas & Grace Bland
8/12/1703 baptism of Sara, daughter of Thomas Bland junior
26/3/1716 burial of Grace, wife of Thomas Bland
27/1/1719 marriage of William Bland & Margaret Stone
9/5/1728 baptism of Margaret, daughter of John & Margaret Bland
6/4/1737 burial of Margaret, wife of William Bland
22/1/1738 burial of Margaret, wife of John Bland
14/5/1738 marriage of John Bland & Elizabeth Wragg
16/5/1742 burial of Elizabeth, daughter of John Bland
3/6/1743 baptism of John, son of John Bland
13/3/1752 burial of William Bland
26/1/1770 burial of John Bland
1/11/1772 baptism of Ann, illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Bland
4/12/1803 burial of Elizabeth Bland, widow
It's just about feasible that Ann's mother was Elizabeth Wragg, if she were only a young girl at the time of her marriage and almost fifty when she had her, but more likely I think that John & Elizabeth (Wragg) had another daughter named Elizabeth after their earlier one died.
I'd be checking to see if John Bland left a will.
The Ashford PR transcript that I have (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/ValNealCDs.html#Ashford) only has a few Bland entries as follows:
24/3/1689 baptism of William, son of Thomas & Grace Bland
8/12/1703 baptism of Sara, daughter of Thomas Bland junior
26/3/1716 burial of Grace, wife of Thomas Bland
27/1/1719 marriage of William Bland & Margaret Stone
9/5/1728 baptism of Margaret, daughter of John & Margaret Bland
6/4/1737 burial of Margaret, wife of William Bland
22/1/1738 burial of Margaret, wife of John Bland
14/5/1738 marriage of John Bland & Elizabeth Wragg
16/5/1742 burial of Elizabeth, daughter of John Bland
3/6/1743 baptism of John, son of John Bland
13/3/1752 burial of William Bland
26/1/1770 burial of John Bland
1/11/1772 baptism of Ann, illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Bland
4/12/1803 burial of Elizabeth Bland, widow
It's just about feasible that Ann's mother was Elizabeth Wragg, if she were only a young girl at the time of her marriage and almost fifty when she had her, but more likely I think that John & Elizabeth (Wragg) had another daughter named Elizabeth after their earlier one died.
I'd be checking to see if John Bland left a will.
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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Re: Family tree forms
« on: Sunday 29 April 12 14:26 BST (UK) »
I doubt you'll find such a thing, as the chart designer would not know how many children a couple had. Printing one from genealogy software would be better.
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Derbyshire / Re: Johnson of Dowel family details
« on: Thursday 12 April 12 19:31 BST (UK) »
According to a transcript/index of Earl Sterndale PR:
JOHNSON, William, son of Joseph & Ellen of Dowall was bapt 22 May 1791
From the same source, his siblings' bapts:
JOHNSON Elizabeth - Joseph & Ellen - Dowal - 14 Jan 1787
JOHNSON Margaret - Josh & Ellen - Dowell - 16 Dec 1792
JOHNSON, William, son of Joseph & Ellen of Dowall was bapt 22 May 1791
From the same source, his siblings' bapts:
JOHNSON Elizabeth - Joseph & Ellen - Dowal - 14 Jan 1787
JOHNSON Margaret - Josh & Ellen - Dowell - 16 Dec 1792
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Derbyshire / Re: The Hoosons of Great and Little Longstone
« on: Tuesday 20 March 12 07:10 GMT (UK) »
A Thomas Howson, yeoman of Little Longstone, gave 1s 6d to the "free and voluntary present" in 1661.
http://www.genealogy.mallen.org.uk/resources/nottinghamshireArchives/DD_3P_2_2.html#LittleLongstone1
http://www.genealogy.mallen.org.uk/resources/nottinghamshireArchives/DD_3P_2_2.html#LittleLongstone1