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Messages - Biggles50

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It is 10 years since my Wife & I took our Ancestry DNA tests and it has been quite an emotional journey using DNA to validate our trees and to find missing relatives.

DNA has helped me solve some pretty big issues and so just when I thought we are reaching a point where I need to start consolidating what we have a curve ball gets thrown.

352cM, a new match arrived on Ancestry yesterday, she joined in January this year so reasonable to presume it was a Christmas present and the results are in.

Alas no tree and a user name of two female forenames i.e. “Susan Elizabeth” so not much to go on.

I can see our Shared Matches and having Pro Tools I can see what cM she has with each of our Shared Matches and I am her closest match.

My Grandma was one of 11, of the 11, 1 died in infancy, 3 were killed in WW1, 3 others had family and from each of these 3 there is a direct DNA match.

Of the 3 remaining siblings, 1 never married, 1 had no children and the remaining 1 had 3 children.

So the hypothesis is that the match is from one of these 3 children.

Unfortunately I have not yet been able to build a tree from this part of the family, the reason being in part a Harrison surname.

Fingers crossed that she responds to the Message.

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Anything on the Continent is very much hit and miss on the availability of records.

It is not an impossible task, more a difficult one but it is solvable.

The big IF is that a DNA test needs to be taken.

If a Half Cousin (Grandson of the unknown Father) of your generation takes a DNA test then you would share c449cM, with their child c224cM and Grandchild 125cM.  This is highly unlikely so we look back another generation, then another, so a mammoth task.

I suggest you start Grouping your DNA matches and your shared DNA matches related to known ancestral lines and then those without a Group marker are the ones of interest.  You have the Paternal, Maternal and Unknown so you have a start there.

Taking a test with My Heritage may open up other matches, as will uploading your DNA to Gedmatch, ftDNA etc.

Giving an example I manage the DNA for someone whose GG GF is unknown, and following the Grouping I was left with over 100 possible relations of the unknown GG GF who were then placed in their own Group.  Working through each I discounted those and changed them to a different Group.


Eventually one lead me to a line where their ancestors lived in the next village two miles away, the DNA match is not a direct descendent of the potential Father but so far that is as good as it gets.

Good luck



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So it has been a few weeks and quite a few additions have been made to my tree.

Been in contact with a new 3C and a very informative outcome that has been.

The DNA Tools are so far not proving much different.

Not getting any Triangulation but a couple of potentials.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: My Heritage & whole genome testing.
« on: Wednesday 04 March 26 08:39 GMT (UK)  »
Yet, Ancestry gets my ethnicity breakdown to match the research.

My Heritage does not.

It is all down to data processing so best thought of as a rough approximation.

It is all a bit of fun in any case and taken with a bag of Saxa.

The whole point of taking the revised DNA Whole Genome test was to see if it offered anything new to genealogical research.

Jury is still out on that.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: My Heritage & whole genome testing.
« on: Tuesday 03 March 26 17:25 GMT (UK)  »
I am not with your thinking.

Looking through the closest matches there does not seem to be any change in cM values compared to my recollection of the first MH test.

I have linked four new DNA Cousins into my Ancestry tree from the MH matches but that is only due to them having trees on MH that have recognisable family members.

So not really much benefit as far as I can ascertain so far from the new MH testing process.

Now by my logic, whole genome should enable far more accurate use and results of using the Chromosome Browser and Auto Clusters.

The Chromosome Browser with the limited testing applied by myself does not seem any different to the prior system, still zero triangulation and any useful indication using DNA matches who are close relations to each other.

The Auto Cluster has taken a while to generate but it used the highest 100 matches to cluster.  The result is a largest cluster of 15 with the top one having more shared matches than the others but with just their name and no tree, they are not presently worth any time researching.  Nor is no tree, “Auntie M” for obvious reasons.

Again spurious results with DNA matches who are closely related not in the same cluster yet in another cluster they are there.

Ethnicity as stated, way off the mark.

I am 50% Cheshire/Yorkshire going back 250 years, 25% Irish and 25% Italian both going back to 1800 and beyond. 

MH shows me as 31% Scottish/Welsh, 25% English, 15% Italian, 11% Irish & 7% French then a smattering of other origins.



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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: My Heritage & whole genome testing.
« on: Tuesday 03 March 26 14:35 GMT (UK)  »
3rd March

The results are in.

Out of the 10 highest matches 6 were already in my tree, one has a tree of one and the matches currently give no clues.  Another has a tree where there are a lot of holes in her tree but the potential is there in one of our Shared Matches.  They seem to be First Cousins to each other and from his tree I found that I share the same GGGP’s with him.  Alas his 1C is not visible in his tree and no names in her tree are shown in his.  Awaiting a response from him.

As yet I have not got beyond looking at matches and ethnicity.

Ethnicity, as shown by MH it is still the same as its reputation, not accurate at all.


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: My Heritage & whole genome testing.
« on: Sunday 01 March 26 23:10 GMT (UK)  »
1st March

DNA Raw Data produced.

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry family trees full of lazy errors
« on: Sunday 01 March 26 11:06 GMT (UK)  »
It is not just Ancestry Trees that have errors.

My own recent personal experience shows that Find My Past, My Heritage and Family Search all have Family Trees with errors.

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry family trees full of lazy errors
« on: Sunday 01 March 26 11:03 GMT (UK)  »
Births were recorded with the Local Registrar with the districts based upon the Poor Law Unions.

Hence delays were always possible.


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