Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - RLR500

Pages: [1] 2
1
Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: Knockbreda Cemetery Belfast
« on: Wednesday 20 April 22 19:49 BST (UK)  »
To Wee Hugh and iluleah
THANK YOU so much for your responses.
I spent most of today emailing Castlereagh Council and then Belfast City Council - and had a very unproductive (not a surprise) telephone call with the Bereavement Officer at the City Council.
All he could do was check online - and when I tried to explain that I had been doing that for over 4 years and exhausted every source - he confirmed that he couldn't find any records either.
So I am going to follow up with a few specific questions tomorrow - to ask where the paper records for Knockbreda are, like the plot book that used to be at the Cemetery site (that lovely little house in the middle of the cemetery - I visited it back in 2016 but couldn't get in as it was closed that day).
SO yes - I can confirm that Knockbreda is back under the auspices and care of Belfast City Council - ever since 2015. I wish they would update all the conflicting info on the websites!
SO the mystery continues.

2
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: decipher RESIDENCE of Joseph Jamison marriage to Jane Patterson?
« on: Sunday 17 April 22 16:26 BST (UK)  »
Wonderful! THANK YOU.  :D :D

3
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / decipher RESIDENCE of Joseph Jamison marriage to Jane Patterson?
« on: Sunday 17 April 22 16:04 BST (UK)  »
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1847/09331/5379023.pdf

Looking for the Irish residence for JOSEPH JAMISON on this marriage record 13 Dec 1847.....
something like
Carryduft.....??
And confirmation that Jane Patterson was residing in BALLYCAIRN?
Thank you.

4
Lanarkshire / Re: Wllm John JAMISON death 19thC Glasgow
« on: Saturday 16 April 22 17:56 BST (UK)  »
Yes I was just working on their deaths also - and as neither of them were living with the sons during the 1891 census records - so I am assuming for now death for both of them 1880s.

And Paterson was such a popular name in Glasgow - and some prominent  families also - which is a distraction as Jamison’s were well to do in a modest way - but not the fancy Jamison, Paterson Merchant Company I keep finding in the 1860s and 1870s. Was that the Wllm Paterson who founded the Bank of England? Can’t be connected to him.

I just wish I could connect the Joseph and Jane Paterson that had the twins and Joseph with the couple who had William Henry.
I have been through city directories, army enlistments, electoral rolls and census.
I feel now the only place that it might be is church records.

5
Lanarkshire / Re: Wllm John JAMISON death 19thC Glasgow
« on: Saturday 16 April 22 16:40 BST (UK)  »
Typing in bed late at night - Joseph not David. !!
Will look at this now. TY

6
Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: Knockbreda Cemetery Belfast
« on: Saturday 16 April 22 11:51 BST (UK)  »
KG Thank you. Unfortunately Belfast City Council do not look after the records for Knockbreda (or Milltown).

7
Lanarkshire / Re: Wllm John JAMISON death 19thC Glasgow
« on: Saturday 16 April 22 10:53 BST (UK)  »
Yes thank you. Agree 100% and that has been my golden rule throughout my last 15yrs of ancestry research.  :)

8
Lanarkshire / Re: Wllm John JAMISON death 19thC Glasgow
« on: Saturday 16 April 22 09:51 BST (UK)  »
Annie, Thanks for this. I checked it out - seems so perfect doesn't with the middle name and all - but the parents don't match and neither does his wife. So its not him.

His wife, Mary Jane BOAL Jamison - was back in Ireland with her two grown unmarried sons (Robert and Wllm Henry) for the 1901 Ireland Census.
So we think that either William John was travelling for work - or was deceased by then. But the 1901 Census has Mary Jane as married.

Mary Jane died 22 Nov 1910, as a widow, at her son's residence at 30 Indiana St Belfast.
Would love to find her burial ground - as we think that is where we will find her son Robert (my g grandfather) who passed away at 47yrs old in 1921.
No one has ever known where he was buried. There are no online records.

9
Lanarkshire / Re: Wllm John JAMISON death 19thC Glasgow
« on: Friday 15 April 22 23:44 BST (UK)  »
Monica! What a whole load of amazing info and detail! So I spent most of today going down a completely different rabbit hole in looking for Joseph Jamison/Jamieson...... and have just deleted it all. Your trail seems so much more promising - the KEY link was the residence 16 Rowchester St Glasgow on David Jamieson marriage in 1874.
And the interesting fact of the twins...... my g/grandfather Robert Jamison had twins! (my grandmother).
But I have not been able to link William John to Joseph Jamieson and Jane Patterson.
I found Joseph Jamison and Jane Patterson marriage - Drumbo Parish Church, Co Down  13 Dec 1847. And Jane's age was 20 (b 1827) on this marriage record which makes it more plausible for her to have the twins at age 38 (not 45 if you look at other trees and sources which have her as older than Joseph).
There are 3 other ancestry trees that have Joseph and Jane - but only with Joseph Jr and the twins..... noone else has Wllm John as their first child.
Sigh. And the records start too late for his birth in 1848/9.
Do you have any way of searching church records back then? If they married in Drumbo Church Co Down and Wllm John was born 1 year later - perhaps his birth/baptism was recorded there as well?

I am sorry I don't know how to include a link (like you have). i am still learning how to use this site.
Re: Ancestry.com site. Yes I am a paid up member (15yrs plus) and the tree link that you posted was my cousin Robert (a Jamison descendant) and he copies everything from me.
So the answer is no - we have not found William John's family - nor has anyone else on Ancestry. My tree is fairly comprehensive and I try hard to get all my facts sourced and checked.... but this link has me stumped.
You have been marvelous! I don't know how you keep it all straight - it makes my head spin and I know all these people/names etc.!!
I would love to confirm all of this... and am still hoping that it may lead to a burial location for my g/grandfather Robert Jamison b 25 Dec 1872 Glasgow d 26 Apr 1921 (I made another post in the graveyard section asking for help with Knockbreda Cemetery Belfast records - I think he may be buried there?).
I better stop here before this turns into a novel! Thank you so very much. This has been eye opening! :-)

Pages: [1] 2