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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 16:01 BST (UK)  »
In case anyone else is interested in this family, I got the wedding cert. for Peter Fiorentino and Rose Chandler - married in registry office, 1885, fathers SALVO Fiorentione [sic] a mariner, and Henry Chandler, a mason. Ages 30 and 20, bachelor and spinster.

So if Salvo was Peter's father, it looks like Salvo (aka Samuel) Fiorentino married to Mary Cath. Hyde might have been Peter's brother, since both couples were managing the boarding house at 151 Bute St during the same period

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 14:01 BST (UK)  »
That's fantastic, thank you

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 11:56 BST (UK)  »
1921 Rose Florentine a visitor in large household in Morlais Street, Cardiff. Widow, age 58 and 7 months. Maternity nurse. Born Cardiff. Could this be Rose Fiorentino do you think?

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 11:42 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, so Samuel is Salvo then

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 10:03 BST (UK)  »
Anna Fiorintine born 1885, baptised 1886 in Roath - FindMyPast has this in their Wales Catholic Baptisms collection. Does anyone have FindMyPast to see the details please?

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 09:33 BST (UK)  »
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This from 1897 says that boarding house was kept by Rose Foronentroso - Rosina? Looks like various family members could be running it depending on who's available: https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3267745/3267748/57/151%2BOR%2BBute%2BOR%2BStreet

Sorry, I missed this before. I would say your reasoning must be correct about this. The articles about the murder at 151 Bute St place husband Peter Fiorentino at the boarding house at the same time.

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 09:16 BST (UK)  »
so let me check I've understood all this:

"Grandmother" Catherine Hyde (b.1838) > daughter Mary Catherine Hyde (b.1870) -- present together on 1881 and 1891 census.

In 1891 "grandmother" Catherine Hyde is living in the upper flt at 13 Crwys Road in Cardif, along with her other daughter Annie Samson and Annie's husband James Samson (a Maltese man). In the lower flat at 13 Crwys Road is Samuel Furinitine (spelled 'Fantin' on Ancestry), age 28, a Maltese fireman, wife Mary C. age 21 (bc. 1870 - so this must be Catherine Hyde's daughter Mary Catherine) plus their daughter Annie C., born 1885.

I think therefore that Samuel Furintine must be Salvo.

In 1901 "grandmother" Catherine aged 63 (b.1838) and grand-daughter Annie Furentine (age 15, bc.1886) are at Hodge Court along with Catherine's daughter Annie Sampson and granddaughter Annie Sampson (age 10).

Salvo and wife Mary Catherine also have a daughter Mary Melita who appears with mother Mary Catherine (married, not a widow) in 1901 at 151 Bute Street. Mary Melita marries a Maltese man named Williams in 1906, then a second marriage to a Maltese man named Depasquale in 1931. She has three children with Williams - Joseph Fred. , Mary Catherine and Frances Mary Williams.

Mary Catherine Fiorentino (Salvo's wife) remarries to Lawrence Mellia in 1905.


Have I understood this correctly?

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 10:25 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all this Hanes.

The seaman you found, that might be another man - I think the Peter I'm looking into was born c.1853 (per the 1891 census).

Annie Fiorentino? I wonder if Cardiff Fiorentinos are all related, or whether it was just a common Maltese name and Cardiff was a busy dock, so not related? What do you think?

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Glamorganshire / Re: Furintone / Fiorintone in Cardiff
« on: Tuesday 17 June 25 18:35 BST (UK)  »
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Marriages Q3 1885   
Cardiff    Vol 11a   p466   
Fiortini    Salvo       
HYDE    Mary Catherine   
     
PICKFORD    Emily        
PICKFORD    William George        

Salvio is another Maltese seaman

Just a coincidence that Salvo was also called Fiorentino and resided at the same address in Bute St as Peter Fiorentino?

I can't find anything much on Salvo - a couple of war records maybe.

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