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Travelling People / Re: Traveller Heritage?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 22 19:53 BST (UK)  »
Hello Moondance

I have popped into Appleton this evening and had a mooch around the graveyard.

This is all thanks to you. I have also purchased the book - will start on it tonight.

Kindest regards

Hi Tony - no, not at all (though coincidentally I did grow up in Appleton in the 80s and 90s). I'm writing a fiction book for children and am including a Fairground Traveller character, so I'm just reading lots of books connected with them and their history. How fantastic that you've found a second cousin!! I'm so pleased  :)

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Travelling People / Re: Traveller Heritage?
« on: Monday 23 May 22 09:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello Moondance

Are you connected to this family?

Thank you for the info. I have made contact with the author, who apparently is my second cousin.

He says that their heritage is traveller but, as you say, the man in the book joined the fairground.

I have ordered the book. Looking forward to reading it.

Kind regards

Hi Tony

I am doing research for something and happened across your post and joined this forum specifically to answer - because I have just read a book about the Pratley family of Oxfordshire! The book is called "Traveller's Tale: The Making of a Fairground Showman" and is the biography of Walter Edward Reginald Pratley, known as Reg, who was born in 1895 and died in 1939. He wasn't born into the Fairground community, he joined it. The author of the book is David Slattery-Christy (Reg's grandson) and there are several family trees at the back. I couldn't find a Pratley born in 1955 because the trees are mainly concerned with the late 19th century and early 20th century, but you may well find clues in the book and in the family trees! The Pratley family came from Appleton and you can find some of them buried in the churchyard of St Lawrence's church there.

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Travelling People / Re: Traveller Heritage?
« on: Wednesday 11 May 22 16:39 BST (UK)  »
First off; many thanks for all who have contributed to my questions.

So. I have also done a DNA ancestry test a few years ago and sent my results over a few other test providers.

One of them flagged up a Chapman and we got talking online. We discussed Mitchum amongst other things and are 100% that we are closely related - he comes up as a 2nd cousin.

I had a light-bulb moment today and had another look at our old messages.

He mentions the names; James, Cornelius and Albert are known names. He also mentioned the middle name Fenner. So we must be on the right track.

Does anyone know from what they found; if Cornelius had any brothers?

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Renfrewshire / Re: Scottish census Info
« on: Monday 11 April 22 22:14 BST (UK)  »
These are my direct ancestors through my maternal line.

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Ireland / Re: Morrow and Kincaid
« on: Monday 11 April 22 20:57 BST (UK)  »
Apologies for using the wrong board. I’m new to this.

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Ireland / Morrow and Kincaid
« on: Monday 11 April 22 20:35 BST (UK)  »
Hello

I have the names Morrow and Kincaid in my family.

Would there be a general area in Ireland where these surnames are historically more common?

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Travelling People / Re: Traveller Heritage?
« on: Sunday 10 April 22 19:57 BST (UK)  »
Millipede,

That was my parents marriage that you found.

My father died 2 years ago.

As for my mother, I do not have a clue. I lost contact with her over 20 years ago.

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Travelling People / Re: Traveller Heritage?
« on: Sunday 10 April 22 07:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello

My mothers maiden name was Chapman - born in 1949 in Mitcham Surrey.

Here father was always known as ‘Charlie’ and doesn’t seem to exist anywhere on records.

I have since discovered his first name or middle name may have been Cornelius. But I still can’t find him anywhere.

He was known as a boxer and bare knuckle fighter in his younger days.

He and his brother were known fighters in their younger days around the Mitchum area, and my mother was born there. This would have been pre-ww2 and up to the 50’s maybe?

I only remember him as an older man who had settled in Streatham with his pigeons and his ever-present trilby. He used to buy and sell metal amongst other things.

Finding black and white info on him has proved to be almost impossible. He didn’t even seem to appear on my mothers birth registration.

My father was born in Oxfordshire in 1955 and his surname was Pratley - deceased now.

He used to visit his fairground family in the 1970’s.

He mentioned a few times that he came from ‘travelling fairground folk.’ And my memories certainly confirm this.

Again, a struggle to determine who they may have been.

It’s a shame that I took so much for granted as child.

I may need to try and find out his mothers maiden name. 

Not sure what to do next. I have so many dead ends in my tree.

Many thanks for your help and advice so far.

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Travelling People / Re: Traveller Heritage?
« on: Saturday 09 April 22 16:22 BST (UK)  »
Hello

Sorry, some typos in previous message

I have been raised in a very broken family and for years I have been trying to piece together memories.

I have a vivid memory as a kid of visiting my dads relatives who were fairground folk.

I have researched and came up with the following names in my ancestry.

Pratley
Chapman
Cornelius

The name Marshall also features a lot.

I’m sure there are others, but I know these 4 immediately.

Is there a possibility bearing in mind my recollections?

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