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Perthshire / Re: Comrie family of Perthshire
« on: Saturday 29 March 25 10:21 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Jennifer FT

My name is John Comrie-Greig. I am 82 but I still have all my marbles. I was born in Falkirk, Scotland, and educated in Falkirk and Edinburgh, but now live in Perth, Western Australia.

I saw, by chance, your message of 9 April 2010 on RootsChat about Ann Jemima Comrie. I have before me as I write this, my transcript of Ann Jemima's marriage certificate in 1860 and of her death certificate in 1918. I also have a full family tree of her branch of the Comries.

I won't give the details here as 15 years have elapsed since you wrote the post, and it might be a waste of my time to write it all out, but if you should find this post of mine, still want the information and are still in circulation, please write to me.

To anyone else out there on RootsChat who might wish to know the details of any Comrie who was born, married or died in Scotland between 1855 and 1978, I have it all. I spent a great deal of time in 1961, 1967, 1968, 1969 , and again in 1980, painstakingly transcribing the certificates in Register House in Edinburgh. I would hate to see it all that effort wasted. I have 2600 cards with the details.

You are all welcome to e-mail me.

Regards

John Comrie-Greig

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: Comrie Kilsyth Scotland
« on: Monday 02 December 24 06:09 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Julie,

It so happens that I have compiled a family tree for the descendants of Peter Comrie and Jean Stirling. They are on my JC-G Comrie family tree 13, which is 12 pages long. 

I have the nine children of David Comrie and Margaret Anderson as Peter (b. 1876), James (b. 1878), Elizabeth (b. 1880), Jean Stirling (b. 1882), David (b. 1883), John (b. 1885), Daniel (b. 1887), Margaret (b. 1889), and Clementina (b. 1893). I transcribed their birth (and other) certificates in the 1960s and 1970s in New Register House in Edinburgh.

Their first son Peter died at three years of age in 1879 and I don't have deaths recorded for Margaret and Clementina, but as I stopped transcribing BMD certificates in 1980, they could either have left Scotland or lived to ripe old ages and missed my dragnet!

My name is John Comrie-Greig and I was born in Falkirk (about 20 kilometres east of Kilsyth) in 1942. I live in Perth, Western Australia.

If you require more data, give me a shout.

Kind regards

John


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Unwanted Certificates & Artefacts / Re: Comrie of St Andrews
« on: Monday 02 December 24 02:39 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Lafrowda (and respondent Rosinish)

As promised a week or so ago, here are the family details for the senior Elizabeth Stirling Comrie, the mother of Bessie (Elizabeth) Stirling Comrie who died in Perth in 1997. She belongs to JC-G Comrie Family Tree 47 (JC-G card 1527). I have transcriptions of her birth certificate in 1884 and of her death certificate in 1967.

Ref. 383 (Monzievaird), entry 6. Year 1884.
Elizabeth Stirling Comrie was born on 17 April 1884 at 15.00 hours at Glentarf, a farm 3¼ km SE of the centre of Comrie, Perthshire.
Her father was not identified. Her mother was Christina Comrie, housekeeper. The certificate was signed by Christina Comrie at Monzievaird on 31 May 1884.

Ref. 453 (St. Andrews), entry 134. Year 1967.
Elizabeth Stirling Comrie died aged 83 on 21 November 1967 at 04.10 hours at the Memorial Hospital, St Andrews. She was a “farm worker (retired)” and single. The cause of death was senile arteriosclerosis. Her father was not identified. Her mother was given as Christina Comrie, housekeeper, deceased. Elizabeth’s usual residence was given as South Lambieletham Cottages, St Andrews. Her death certificate was signed by Bessie Comrie (daughter) on 21 November 1967 at St Andrews.

Elizabeth Stirling Comrie’s mother was Christina Comrie who belongs to JC-G Comrie Family Tree 47, card 1697.

Christina Comrie was born or baptised on 19 September 1841 according to Scotland’s People. Her name was recorded as “Christian” which was a form of “Christina” often (or occasionally?) used before the mid-1800s in Scotland. Her father was given correctly as Duncan Comrie and her mother as “Lilias” Stirling. The name “Lilias” is apparently an alternative pet name for “Elizabeth” used in some Scottish families. Certainly “Elizabeth” is given as the mother’s name in Christina’s death certificate (see below).

Ref. 386(A) (Muthill) entry 5. Year 1917.
Christins Comrie died aged 75 on 13 March 1917 at 4 a.m. at Coilcambus farm, parish of Muthill. She was a housekeeper and was single. The cause of death was given as pulmonary congestion. Her father was Duncan Comrie, farmer, deceased, and her mother was Elizabeth Comrie née Stirling, deceased. Her death certicate was signed by John Carmichael (intimate friend) of Mayfair, Comrie. Coilcambus is a farm at the junction of the B827 distributor road between Comrie and Braco and of the unclassified road that runs eastwards from the village of Muthill to lower Glen Artney at Trian and Wester Meiggar. Christina’s brother Alexander, a retired farmer, died at Coilcambus in 1916 and his death certificate was also signed by John Carmichael of Mayfair in Comrie. Perhaps he was the farmer of Coilcambus? The farmhouse is 2⅔ kilometres south-west of Glentarf.

Duncan Comrie, the tenant farmer of Glentarf in the mid-19th century, is recorded on JC-G Comrie Family Tree 47, card 464.
Duncan Comrie was born or baptised on 30 August 1801 in the parish of Monzievaird and Strowan (fide Scotland’s People). He was the son of John Comrie, farmer, and his wife Mary Comrie née McInnes. Duncan Comrie was married to Elizabeth Stirling on 16 April 1835 in the parish of Comrie (fide Scotland’s People).

Ref. 383 (Monzievaird) entry 3. Year 1867.
Duncan Comrie died aged 65 on 23 February 1867 at 5 p.m. at Glentarf. He was described as a farmer and widower of Elizaberth Stirling. The cause of death was “after fall from a stack … about 6 weeks”. I presume the stack would have been of hay or straw. His parents were given as John Comrie, farmer, and Mary Comrie née McInnes and the death certificate was signed by his son Alexander Comrie on 2 March 1867 at Monzievaird.

Dunan Comrie’s parents were John Comrie, “late farmer in Glascorry”, and his wife Mary McInnes, according to a gravestone inscription in Monzievaird kirkyard.
The farm Glascorry (now spelt “Glascorrie”) lies about 1¼ kilometres east-north-east of Glentarf.

Kind regards
John Comrie-Greig

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Unwanted Certificates & Artefacts / Re: Comrie of St Andrews
« on: Sunday 24 November 24 09:45 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Lafrowda (and respondent Rosinish)
I have the answers to your query about Elizabeth Stirling Comrie who died in Perth (Scotland) in 1997.
Firstly, some background. I am a Comrie on my mother's side and I was born in Falkirk in October 1942. In 1961 I applied to become a member of the Clan Gregor Society based on my father's surname Greig and my mother's maiden surname Comrie, both surnames then being regarded as "septs" of Clan Gregor. John MacGregor, the Society's Chairman, told me that the Society did not recognise these septs and advised me to research them. I did so, and ended up agreeing with John MacGregor that there was no direct connection of either surname to the clan.
I then began to transcribe all the birth, marriage and death certificates (from 1855 until 1980) of Comries in Scotland held in Edinburgh's New Register House. I did this work between 1961 and
1980 and I have about 2600 Comries on card index. My professional work then took me to Malawi, Ghana, South Africa and finally Australia -- where I now live in Perth, Western Australia.
I did, however, keep all my Comrie material through the years and it is now a rather valuable resource -- no-one nowadays is allowed free access to the original B, M, and D certificates.
In the 1980s , while I was in South Africa I created 63 family trees for Scottish Comries. These I  later consolidated to about 55 trees.
I can therefore tell you that I have my transcription of the birth certificate of Elizabeth Stirling Comrie before me as I write this. She belongs to JC-G Comrie Family Tree 47 (JC-G card 1528). Her details follow:
Ref. 685(4) (St Giles, Edinburgh) entry 666. Year 1910.
Elizabeth Stirling was born on 13 May 1910 at 15.11 hours at the Royal Maternity Hospital, Edinburgh.
Her father was not identified. Her mother was [also] Elizabeth Stirling (Comrie) [the Comrie was added in pencil] and her "domicile" was given as Craigmore farm by Aberfeldy (although this address was scored out by a later hand and replaced with a pencilled note "Glentarf farm by Comrie"). The certificate was signed by Elizabeth Stirling (Comrie) [the Comrie was added in pencil] at Edinburgh on 27 May 1910.
The birth certificate has an important footnote:
R.C.E. (Register of Corrected Entries) 685(4) Vol. 22, page 34. 16 January 1911 states that the pencilled corrections are to be inserted according to a deposition by Elizabeth S. Comrie. In 1911 the birth record was also transcribed to the Monzievaird register as: 383 (Monzievaird) entry 1 1911 with the mother described as a farm servant of Glentarf farm by Comrie.

The underlying story here is that the original birth certificate did not name the "Comrie" surname, which it should have, and Elizabeth was clearly belatedly keen to acknowledge her Comrie ancestry. In addition, I happen to know that Elizabeth's family did indeed have its origin (if only for a couple of generations) on the farm Glentarf which I know reasonably well and which lies a mere 3¼ km SE of the centre of Comrie and about 2¾ km east of the historic Cultybraggan POW Camp. Although Glentarf is rather close to Comrie, it is in fact in the parish of Monzievaird, and Elizabeth may have wished to acknowledge that fact as well.   

Elizabeth's mother, also Elizabeth Stirling Comrie, was also illegitimate. As this text of mine is rather lengthy, I shall close it now and provide a new entry tomorrow on RootsChat for her birth and death certificates and for her forebears going back four generations.

By the way, Lafrowda, you mentioned that you had a collection of photographs and other knick-knacks from Elizabeth's estate and that you wished to have them placed with a family member. Well, I'm not a family member, but I am a little bit of an archivist and I hate to see family photographs and heirlooms without a home. I have a large collection of Comrie material and, although I am 82 (but still completely compos mentis), I have already taken steps to see that my hard-won collection should not be consigned to the dustbin of history (otherwise known as landfill). I have five sons, all of whom bear the name "Comrie Greig", and my eldest son Robert Leith Comrie Greig lives in Aberdeen with his wife and three children. All are interested in family history and all know the village of Comrie very well.  I have taken steps to ensure that my collection of data will be preserved and looked after when I finally shake off my mortal coil.

JC-G Comrie Family Tree 47 is two pages long and I will happily scan that for whoever might be interested. It is a declining family as of around 1980, although I hope it has grown since that year!

So, if you haven't already disposed of Elizabeth's photographs etc., I should like to put my hand up as at least a temporary custodian. I have very good computer scanner and my sons have too, so we can copy the lot, label them and make them available to whoever might be interested.
My publishing and scientific credentials may be checked by looking up "John Comrie-Greig" on Google. There are several pages of references there.
If you should wish to trust the material to my family's possession, I could give you my son's Aberdeen address. I would be happy to pay for the postage costs.
Kind regards
John


                                                     

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