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Hello everyone,

I thought I'd tack on to a thread about Dryhursts rather than start a new thread, even though this thread is very old.
 Thomas Edwards "Edwin" Dryhurst was born around 1840-1845 in the UK. He emigrated to Australia around 1865 and married Amelia Tomlins in 1867. He became a teacher and was highly regarded for his attitude to young people and teaching skills.

I know a lot about him once he married Amelia, but almost nothing before that. I was following family lines and thought he was born on 19 Feb 1843 in Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England to Thomas Dryhurst and Jane Maher. However, I have recently discovered an old family bible, and in it my grandmother has written that Thomas Dryhurst came from Wales.

I have not been able to locate immigration/emmigration records for him, so really have no evidence of which family he belongs to or where he came from.

If anyone has any information of a Thomas Dryhurst born around 1840, especially if from Wales, or perhaps a disappearing relative that might be him? Of course if he was running away from something he might not have given his real name - though I expect he'd have to give his correct name for travel by ship to Australia.

Anyhow, if you think you can help I would really like to hear your ideas.

thanks,
Melanie


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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Saturday 25 June 22 16:06 BST (UK)  »
Monica, I just realised the information you had asked about here...
"Are these George Jnr's details here www.bayanne.info/Shetland/getperson.php?personID=I493763&tree=ID1" was the information that I supplied to them! I sent them a family tree from the research that I had done. Which means if i got any of it wrong, then so did they. So not a great resource for me because it would work like an echo chamber.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Tuesday 07 June 22 03:49 BST (UK)  »
Oh wow, that is a brilliant find! Thank you for that. I'm very excited by this.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Friday 03 June 22 18:17 BST (UK)  »
Oh wow Monica, that record for the OS books is brilliant! I looked at a few pages, and George Brechin is listed as the authority for the spelling of names of a lot of them. Which would indicate to me that he is a land steward, wouldn't you think?
Oh gosh, it's after 3am, I need to go to bed.
Thanks Monica, those leads have been great.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Friday 03 June 22 18:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Monica. Yes those are George Jnrs details. There is no birth record for him, that I can locate, but that is his death record.

There are a few family trees on ancestry - all with different parents! So I don't think any of them are necessarily accurate. So, for example the one you gave the link to, the death record for that George with parents George and Margaret Adam, only lists Jane Todd as his wife. There is a marriage record for George marrying Jane Todd in 1843. But no children, unlike the Mary Jane Todd listed in that tree.

The list on Bayanne has Barbara Gordon being born in 1805. But there were quite a few Barbara Gordon's born around the time and I can't find anything that verifies that this is the same Barbara Gordon.

There were also a few George Brechin/Brichens, so it is hard to work out who is whom. But the death record for George Junior lists his father as a land steward. Could a land steward be the same as an overseer? What about a Master Gardener?

There are 2 census records in 1841 for a George Brechin aged 12. One is the one living at Turner Hall. The other is living in a large house as a male servant. Either way, the mother was not around so I suspect Barbara Gordon may have died in 1840 or earlier.

So I think it is still a tangled web at this stage, and I can't rely on those other trees. But I have hope that I will find more evidence and will untangle the web.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Turner Hall - Ellon
« on: Friday 03 June 22 14:54 BST (UK)  »
I have a census record for 1841, stating House of Turnerhall, with the overseer listed as George Brichen (should be Brechin) age 40 (but probably rounded down from 44) and his son George age 12. There is also a Jas. Thomson age 15, ag labourer and Jane Watt age 18, female servant.

So does this mean they were the only ones in the house at that time?

The people on either side of the census record are at Cookstown on one side and what looks like Elphincroft on the other side.

I'm trying to verify the identity of George Brechin circa 1829 parents George Brechin and Barbara Gordon. I think his mother may have died in 1840, so this is looking likely. George (circa 1829) was my GG grandfather.
Can anyone shed any more light on this?
thanks,
Melanie

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Lanarkshire / Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« on: Friday 25 March 22 23:41 GMT (UK)  »
So, the answer is... I may never know. How disappointing. It's a shame that the records didn't survive, and those that did were so poorly recorded. Still, it has been an interesting rabbit hole to go down.

Have others posted their results of searching for Waddells anywhere?

Do you know where I can get hold of a copy of Gavin Waddell's book? It doesn't seem to be available for purchase anywhere, or in a library outside of the UK.

Thanks for your knowledgeable reply. I appreciate fnding out what there is, or is not, to find out about my ancestors.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« on: Friday 25 March 22 00:10 GMT (UK)  »
Could it be swinstie? with a different spelling? There's a Swinstie Rd in Cleland on google maps which is close to where Swinstie is located on the Old Ordnance map. Perhaps it was written as suinsty with the second s looking like a p?

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Lanarkshire / Re: Waddell Families in Shotts
« on: Thursday 24 March 22 22:36 GMT (UK)  »
"What I would like to see is a nicely organised family tree of all these Waddells and how they relate to one another. Wouldn't that be great?
Yes. I've been trying to do that for decades."

Do you have a big wall chart with all the branches that are known listed?

I downloaded all the WADDELLS, with all the variant spellings from 1700-1800 from Scotlands People (just the search results, not the images) and put them into a spreadsheet. I didn't do all 96 pages of results, just those from Lanark, West Lothian and a few other parishes. I am hoping to put them in some kind of order that might help find some trees.

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