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Lancashire / Re: GORNALL & GORNELL, Lancashire, All dates
« on: Friday 04 March 22 16:25 GMT (UK)  »
I recently discontinued my One Name Study of the GORNALL families. My mother was born Catherine Elizabeth Gornall in Southwark, July 16th, 1916. She died in August 2014. Age 98. I was very fortunate to find out a lot about our families,  and the one thing I do know is that all those with the surname GORNALL, (OR OTHER ALTERNATIVE SPELLINGS) ARE RELATED.  There is one mAIN TREE WHICH HAS THE MOST GORNALLS IN IT, AND THEN THERE IS AN ANGLO SAXON TREE OF Gornalls, who descend from an illegitimate relationship of a GORNALL FEMALE and an ANGLO-SAXON MAN. The girl gave her son her maiden name, and of course that was also the name of her father, so my DNA project provided me with an abundance of information.  His descendant lived in NORMANDY, (WHICH WAS POPULATED BY VIKINGS IN THE 9TH CENTURY). That man's name was  GUERNUEL . Marvellously the name survived and we pronounce it as GORNALL now. I have more than half of my genes as Scandinavian, as my father's ancestors were Vikings too.  So, if you are descended from Abraham Gornall, then you can say that you descend from a Viking family. i remember working on the link for Abraham Gornall,  but I do not have  my notes and paper work here in England, as I left them in storage with my daughter in Canada when my husband and  I came back here to live in 2013.  I may return to Canada next year and if I do, I will see what I have for your Abraham.
Best Wishes,
Anne Proctor. Derby.


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Derbyshire Lookup Requests / Re: John William Proctor, 1874 Edale. 1911 Lookup
« on: Friday 04 March 22 16:01 GMT (UK)  »
My late husband (Maurice Charles Proctor) was the grandson of Charles Proctor who was born illegitimately to John Seisor LUFFMAN and Susannah Vesey in 1870.  I gave  a DNA kit for a gift some years ago, and the DNA matched Roger Luffman. A photograph of  John Seisor Luffman sent to us by Roger Luffman, shows a man who could have been my late husband dressed up in 19th century farming clothes. The resemblance between Maurice and other Luffman individuals is striking.   Young Charles did not know  he was actually a LUFFMAN, and he kept the Proctor name. He Left the Proctor household his early teens and went to work on another farm as a groom.  Roger Luffman and my husband are cousins.  I suspect that Mr. Proctor was very angry when he found out that he had been duped.
Sadly, Susannah Vesey died in childbirth in 1871, a year after Charles was born. It is not known, of course whether the child of the next pregnancy was belonging to Mr. Proctor, or Mr. Luffman.  Mr. Seisor Luffman was working on a nearby farm when he encountered Susannah Proctor (nee Vesey).
My husband died at the end of December 2016 here in Derby.  He was 86. He was very interested in the Luffman's.  I regret that we did not get to meet Roger Luffman before Maurice died. Maurice has a son and a daughter one living in Nottingham, and the other in Derby. John Seisor Luffman married a few years after Sarah had died, and he called his son Charles.
Hope this helps you.
Anne Proctor, Derby.

P.S. Maurice moved to Canada in the early 1970's, after he had left the R.A.F. He was very clever. He built a beautiful house in the old growth forest on Vancouver Island, and he was an excellent electrician. His position in the Air Force was as an Electrical Engineer. He spent most of his RAF time overseas, and many years in Hong Kong. He knew everything there was to know about Aircraft, especially the W.W.2 planes.   


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