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The Lighter Side / Re: What is your most uncommon name ? #2
« on: Sunday 13 March 22 09:38 GMT (UK)  »
My several times Great Aunt -   Fanny Shufflebotham. I still laugh out loud whenever I see it.

Today I have found an Amphillis Russell who has a daughter and grand daughter named Amphillis Willets.

Descendent of Amphillis are Uriah and Enoch Hill. 

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The Common Room / Re: Conflicting Sources - What to trust?
« on: Sunday 13 March 22 08:34 GMT (UK)  »
It may be a very old family name… an Amphyllis Russell married a Wyllm. Summer, 6 Nov 1583, Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire…..

Thanks, that is interesting. I have a feeling you may be right that it is a name that is passed down the Russell family. Where did you find that marriage?

Looking at the tree and what is on Ancestry, I think the tree I found is related to my Russell line and they have attributed similarly named relatives from Rowley Regis when they couldn't find the correct ones!

Thanks again!

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The Common Room / Re: Conflicting Sources - What to trust?
« on: Sunday 13 March 22 04:59 GMT (UK)  »
It's disappointing isn't it? When you find something that looks like the answer to all your questions, it's natural to hope it is correct. It's probably a good thing to find conflicting trees, since you might not have questioned their validity if you'd just found one of them.
 :)

Yes, so disappointing, but it has only been in my tree for a day so no long lasting problems.  :)

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The Common Room / Re: Conflicting Sources - What to trust?
« on: Sunday 13 March 22 04:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Ruskie and Liza,

Yes the 1778 tree includes one person of note (Edward Russell -Justice of the Peace in Surrey) but Amphillis is not descended from him. It is possible the tree was drawn up to enhance the family reputation. As far as I know they were pretty standard working class people of the time with the odd shop keeper amongst them who might have had aspirations of grandeur!

Liza, yes very possible that there is a cousin of the same name as Amphillis named her daughter Amphillis and there is a grand daughter Amphillis too.

I think I will start again from scratch, as you say find as many other original sources as I can. What a disappointment!  ::)
 

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The Common Room / Conflicting Sources - What to trust?
« on: Sunday 13 March 22 03:54 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching the Russell (Russil) family of Rowley Regis, Staffs, UK. The first Russell in my tree is an Amphillis Russell (abt 1704- abt 1778). As it is such an unusual name, I did a search for her name in various searches and came across an article on a Morgan family website about her family showing her marriage to my ancestor, Joseph Willets - so we are talking about the same person. The article had a list of sources which included wills of the family and The Gentleman’s Magazine Vol 54 1784
Article link; https://www.morganfourman.com/articles/benjamin-willetts/

I found the The Gentleman’s Magazine Vol 54 1784 online - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015013465888&view=1up&seq=441&skin=2021&q1=russell

On page 889 is a tree showing the ancestors of Amphillis Russell drawn up by John Harrison, Norroy King of Arms in 1784. At this time, Amphillis was either near the end of her life or had recently passed away so it seems as if the information would be likely to be correct.

I entered the family tree into my Ancestry tree, expecting to find documentary evidence of this tree, but instead Amphillis is listed as having different parents on a baptism at the correct time and there are very few hints (and those that are there do not support this tree)  or mainly not coming up at all in hints or searches.

So my question is, did the person who drew this tree up just make it up??? Or are there many documents missing on Ancestry??? Of course there are many trees on Ancestry which are all identical and which take Amphillis's ancestry back through a completely different route but I am wary just to accept that.

Many thanks!



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Glad it worked  :)

If you go to Help  on the top bar and then select Support Centre, it leads to quite a few useful articles which are somehow buried away.

https://support.ancestry.co.uk/s/

Gadget

Thanks - great tip!

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Thanks again, just done it and it was soo easy, I feel daft not to have found it myself!  ;D

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Thanks Gadget, that's brilliant!

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I registered for Ancestry some years ago and started a tree. My membership lapsed and I went back to Ancestry about 2 years ago and did a DNA test. I then started several new trees in Ancestry, for different lines and for my husband. When Thru Lines started it used my original tree from years ago which doesn't have all my research.

So my question is, does anyone know how to change the tree that Thru Lines uses?

Many thanks!

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