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Messages - Simon1a9

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Tipperary / Re: Were headstones removed at St Mary’s Church in Thurles?
« on: Sunday 10 August 25 10:05 BST (UK)  »
Yes, the omission of numbers was not a good sign. I've been trying to work out the best online resources for searching "the Memorials of the Dead" and found memsdead.com, but need to spend more tikme on that. If not, Thurles Library could be a good contact.

In the preamble to the list of names, it mentions numbers which indicate the position of the graves. The Cooke entries do not have numbers.
There is also this,
“ Where possible, these inscriptions have been checked against ‘The Journal for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead,’ which are to be found in the Local Studies Dept. of Thurles Library.”
Perhaps contacting that department may be useful.

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Tipperary / Were headstones removed at St Mary’s Church in Thurles?
« on: Sunday 10 August 25 09:04 BST (UK)  »
This web page has headstone inscriptions for St Mary’s (Church of Ireland) Church in Thurles
https://www.hiddentipperary.com/cemeteries-graveyards/grave-inscriptions-in-st-marys-churchyard/

There are two headstones recorded for COOKE but when I went to the churchyard a couple of days ago many gravestones were totally overgrown and another part had been reworked to be a more modern memorial on the LHS at the entrance. So, I couldn't find the COOKE gravestones.

Were headstones removed at St Mary’s Church in Thurles as a result of the new work, and are there any records of the gravestones that were replaced?

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Help me find graves near Barnagrotty
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 06:33 BST (UK)  »
I have three Protestant ancestors who died in the townland of Barnagrotty in the in Civil Parish of Borrisnafarney, I would have expected them to have been buried in Borrisnafarney Church of Ireland Church, but the graveyard list does not have them buried there: https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/borrisnafarney-church-ireland/bsfy

They are:
Adam Cooke B:abt 1817 D:26 Jan 1872 Barnagrotty, King's County
George Pattison B:Abt 1784 D:16 May 1873 Barnagrotty, King's County
Elizabeth (Bessie) Matilda Pattison B:abt 1819 D:3 Apr 1897 Barnagrotty, King's County

The families were not poor, so I’d expect marked graves. It would be wonderful to find them. Can you help me ?

Edit: Just to clarify - I have copies of all the death registers - it's the graves I'm looking for
I found Annameadle graveyard was nearby - but no sign of the graves:
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/photos/tombstones/1headstones/annameadle.html

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Help me find graves near Barnagrotty
« on: Friday 27 June 25 13:50 BST (UK)  »
I have three Protestant ancestors who died in the townland of Barnagrotty in the in Civil Parish of Borrisnafarney, I would have expected them to have been buried in Borrisnafarney Church of Ireland Church, but the graveyard list does not have them buried there: https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/borrisnafarney-church-ireland/bsfy
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The families were not poor, so I’d expect marked graves. It would be wonderful to find them. Can you help me ?

If there was no gravestone or the stone is illegible it probably won't appear on that site. Not all families bothered to erect a gravestone so it wasn't always a matter of money.
You said the family were Protestant- what denomination? were they actually Church of Ireland?

I believe they were Church of Ireland. Certainly, Adam and Bessie were married in a CoI church (Geashill). I have all their death certificates - it's just frustrating not to be able to find a gravestone, particularly as they seem to have been a relatively prominent family. Thanks for your ideas though.   

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Offaly (Kings) / Help me find graves near Barnagrotty
« on: Thursday 26 June 25 21:46 BST (UK)  »
I have three Protestant ancestors who died in the townland of Barnagrotty in the in Civil Parish of Borrisnafarney, I would have expected them to have been buried in Borrisnafarney Church of Ireland Church, but the graveyard list does not have them buried there: https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/borrisnafarney-church-ireland/bsfy

They are:
Adam Cooke B:abt 1817 D:26 Jan 1872 Barnagrotty, King's County
George Pattison B:Abt 1784 D:16 May 1873 Barnagrotty, King's County
Elizabeth (Bessie) Matilda Pattison B:abt 1819 D:3 Apr 1897 Barnagrotty, King's County

The families were not poor, so I’d expect marked graves. It would be wonderful to find them. Can you help me ?

Edit: Just to clarify - I have copies of all the death registers - it's the graves I'm looking for

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Thanks everyone - as ever, you have been really helpful!

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Hi there  I am wondering what Essex Digby was given for the defence of Geashill. Do I take it this is a list of the armaments given out or did they bring  their own weapon?. Essex Digby may be one of our  ancestors hence my interest ! Regards Orkrad
Hi Orkrad, this excellent video provides some background, 25 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB5nSDraXIg

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This is a list of defenders of Geashill Castle in 1642.
I'm interested in the defender marked by the red arrow.
What name do you read? (I think I know but don't want to lead!)
If I'm correct, it may move the presence of my family in Ireland back 200 years from my current tree. (Just need to fill in the gaps!)

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That could well be him. Thanks for this!   :)

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