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Stirlingshire / Re: Possible to prove which Robert is the right Robert?
« on: Monday 14 February 22 21:00 GMT (UK)  »

I'm also a bit wary of the idea of her having a child at the age of 48. I've been having a look on the internet, and of the more credible web sites, the consensus seems to be that a woman is very unlikely to conceive by natural means (i.e. without IVF or hormone treatment or other medical interventions) after the age of 45.

I've known (and known of) a number of women get pregnant during menopause, so that didn't seem immediately unlikely to me.

The Elizabeth/Bethia switch - I agree it's a bit of a trap, especially as I'm dubious already because of the parents. If I could only identify who first connected this particular Elizabeth/Bethia to my Robert... They might have had actual evidence!

I'd already started collecting Marshalls for elimination purposes. I foresee crazed diagrams in my future :D

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Stirlingshire / Re: Possible to prove which Robert is the right Robert?
« on: Monday 14 February 22 15:38 GMT (UK)  »
In Aberdeenshire, for example, there are 31 Samuels in Aberdour who can thank Samuel Craik, the schoolmaster, for their name.
:o

I hope they were spread out over a lot of years! I'm trying to imagine one school with a dozen or more Samuels possibly in a single classroom. I thought it was awkward being in a class with three Traceys, three Michelles and two Garys

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Stirlingshire / Re: Possible to prove which Robert is the right Robert?
« on: Monday 14 February 22 00:03 GMT (UK)  »
You're right, Forfarian, about the naming pattern. I've been a bit dubious about Bethia and her parents for that reason. My mum's maternal family were still using the naming pattern in the 1980s. There were seven female relatives with same name at my granny's funeral, and another two or three that were too young to attend ;D It  left a big impression on me about the power of family names.

I'm going to double check (again) the line back to Bethia and Robert, to make sure it is as correct as it can be.

I've got another line where the sudden appearance of Simons has me scratching me head thinking I've gone wrong somewhere. I decided to leave it until I acquired a bit more experience. Simons shouldn't just appear out of nowhere!

Woolverine

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Stirlingshire / Possible to prove which Robert is the right Robert?
« on: Saturday 12 February 22 19:22 GMT (UK)  »
I am very new to this. At first I didn't realise what a trap the family trees on Ancestry can be, with people not checking or adding records.

I'm researching Nimmos based around Slamannan and Muiravonside parishes. I'm fairly sure about the line back to a certain point because of birth certificates, the census, etc. Then I got to Bethia Marshall.

She appears on baptismal records as Bethia Marshall. Many trees have her DOB as 13 January 1734 in Muiravonside, parents John Marshall and Marie Boyd. I and other researchers can't find a record of a Bethia matching any of that info.

Last week I found her as Elisabeth Marshell with a baptism date of 16 January 1734 - the parents and parish match. I was pretty excited and now want to verify her husband, Robert Nimmo.

Except Bethia seems to be a popular wife. I've found her marched on Ancestry and FamilySearch with at least four different Robert Nimmos who have different birth years and different birth places.

Even if I exclude geographically unlikely husbands, such as someone whose records are all from Ayrshire when Bethia's are all Muiravonside and Polmont, that still leaves several possibilities.

I don't know how to narrow it down further because I don't have a great understanding of the records available for this time period.

Please point a newbie in the appropriate direction. If the answer is that, well, it isn't possible to get a proper answer, I shall leave the Nimmos there and work on another line.

Woolverine

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Lanarkshire / Re: Covington and Thankerton Mill
« on: Friday 11 February 22 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ian

I found my link to the Galloways of Covington and Thankerton at the weekend, and was astounded.

I can't count how many times I've been through those villages on the bus to Lanark. I always thought Covington was a great wee place, and now I have a family connection.

Reading the Waugh website confirmed what I'd found out myself.

Lindsey

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Lanarkshire / Re: Eastforts, Lanarkshire
« on: Friday 11 February 22 19:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi James

Posting here seems to have brought me luck. I found Jessie's wedding to James Campbell, and then it was a strong line of unusual names.

When I was a kid visiting my gran in Caldercruix, my mum told me stories about visiting her gran in Plains. I always felt like I knew them because of her stories. The best thing about this family history thing is finding evidence for the stories my mum was told by her mum and gran.

Lindsey

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Lanarkshire / Re: Eastforts, Lanarkshire
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
Never mind.

While trying find James the brother, I looked at the Find My Past transcription  which says Eastfield, not Eastforts.

I need to go back and double check everything from FamilySearch on Find My Past.

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Lanarkshire / Eastforts, Lanarkshire
« on: Saturday 05 February 22 22:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I'm trying to establish where my great grandmother was born. I've checked Scotland's Places and various gazetteers without success. Currently trying to find more records on her brother to see what they say.

My great-grandmother's place of birth is given as Eastforts, Lanarkshire on the 1901 census, as is her brother's. On her marriage certificate 1908, her place of birth is Plains.

I haven't been able to find the family on the 1891 census (James Campbell abt 1841, Jessie Armstrong Campbell, abt 1852, James 1884, Christina 1884). In 1901 they were living in New Monkland.

James senior was a coal miner. I'm wondering if Eastforts was the name of the mine where he was working in 1880s, or one of tiny settlements thrown up to house miners.

This little family has been harder to track than the ones with masses of children. That's partly because their names are so common, and partly because with more kids it's easier to match due to the naming patterns.

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