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Have made some corrections & additions to yesterday's posts #18, 23, 25 (in red)

Just have William's family left to post but it's more complication since I had so much information on them to start with. Hopefully soon ...

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« on: Tuesday 19 August 25 17:57 BST (UK)  »
Thomas McIntyre (c1835-2 Nov.1890 Bovagh), son of Thomas & Catherine (Doherty) McIntyre, m.(1861) Mary Jane Chestnutt (c1840-1910 Crevolea)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09607/5483836.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1890/06091/4738331.pdf
Coleraine Chronicle, 8 Nov.1890- Thomas M’Intyre, Killykergan, found dead in a mearing drain in the townland of Bovagh on Monday afternoon. He had been drinking with James Nelson, Mullinabrone, on Sunday.
Belfast Weekly News, 8 Nov.1890- Thomas M’Intyre, of Killykergan, was found in a mearing drain, in the townland of Bovagh, about three miles from Garvagh.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Aghadowey/Ballynacally_Beg/1515881/
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05414/4513134.pdf
1.   Nancy McIntyre (1870 Movenis)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1870/03364/2233596.pdf
2.   Catherine McIntyre (1872 Movenis) m.(1896) William Dunlop. Ch.: Margaret, Thomas
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2191797.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10488/5819358.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Aghadowey/Moneycarrie_Upper/1516050/

3.   David McIntyre (1876 Mayogher [Mayoughill?]) m. Anne. Son: David
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1876/03073/2126325.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Aghadowey/Ballynacally_Beg/1515906/
4.   William McIntyre (1879 Gortin-1881 Ballygawley)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1879/02935/2075271.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06416/4842913.pdf
5.   (John) Wilson McIntyre (1882 Ballygally-1918) m.(1915) Annie Jane Frizzle
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1882/02786/2022641.pdf
https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/RobertThompsonAghadowey.htm

Added- there was another son of Thomas & Mary Jane which was omitted-
James McIntyre (c1861-aft.1890) m.(4 May 1888 St. Guaire’s COI, Aghadowey) Rebecca McGraw (c1866-15 June 1890 Moneycarrie)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10765/5925754.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1890/06099/4740790.pdf
1.   William McIntyre/McGraw? (1886)- born before marriage of James & Rebecca
Bapt. 19 Apr.1889 St. Guaire’s COI, Aghadowey.
2.   James McIntyre (27 June 1888 Moneycarrie-aft.1901)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1888/02509/1930137.pdf
Bapt.19 Apr.1889 St. Guaire’s COI, Aghadowey.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Aghadowey/Ballyganley/1515870/ )with McGraths)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« on: Tuesday 19 August 25 17:53 BST (UK)  »
Elizabeth “Eliza” McIntyre, dau. of Thomas & Catherine (Doherty) McIntyre, m.(1888) William Letson.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10765/5925754.pdf (bride- Blackheath House, Craiglea). Three days later her brother James McIntyre married Rebecca McGraw in the same church.
Coleraine Chronicle, 14 Nov.1891: Head-Constable Tilson charged William and Eliza Letson, of Long Commons, Coleraine, with ...
Coleraine Chronicle, 23 Jan.1904: A CURIOUS CASE. O'Brien v. Letson. Charles O'Brien, Brook Street, Coleraine, sued William Letson, of the same place, for 17s 6d, price of a calf sold to defendant. There was a counter claim ... Eliza Letson, wife of the defendant ...
Possible death on GRONI: Eliza Letson, 10 Feb.1916 Coleraine (Coleraine sub-district). Note: Irish Genealogy have indexed as Leston but image not shown (several weeks of deaths not recorded on page)
1.   Son (born & died 26 May 1877 Dam Side, Coleraine)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1877/03015/2104608.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1877/020550/7211641.pdf
3.   Catherine Doherty McIntyre (15 Mar.1882 Rosemary La., Coleraine-1884 Stable La., Coleraine)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1882/02786/2022650.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1884/06339/4818065.pdf

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« on: Tuesday 19 August 25 17:47 BST (UK)  »
My grandfather did exactly the same thing- mixed up places of birth for his parents which made finding their families in Ireland extra challenging.

I'm still typing up stuff from my files (there is lots because of a sort of connection to my grandfather's family so I'd already done quite a bit of research).

Here's another bit-

Catherine McIntyre (c1857-aft.1901), dau. of Thomas & Catherine (Doherty) McIntyre, m.(1871) John O’Brien (c1844-Dec.1880), iron moulder
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11350/8166595.pdf (bride- Mettican)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06461/4858078.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Coleraine/North_Brook_Street/1518339/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Circular_Road/589424/
Coleraine Cemetery: https://billiongraves.com/images?t=rec24407140&col=1&cat=299087&rec=24407140
1.   Annie Bellas O’Brien (11 Mar.1872 Chapel Square, Coleraine) m.(11 Jan.1894 St. Patrick’s COI, Coleraine) John Davis, tailor.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2191788.pdf
Note: Bellas was the name of a local family and it's possible her father was employed by them
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10551/5843148.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Coleraine/Abbey_Street/1518127/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Circular_Road/589418/

2.   John Armour O’Brien (12 Apr.1874 Long Commons, Coleraine-aft.1901).
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1874/03153/2156362.pdf
3.   Catherina “Cassie” O’Brien (15 July 1876 Church Walls, Coleraine-31 Oct.1951).
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1876/03048/2117455.pdf
4.   Thomas O’Brien (6 May 1879 Church Walls, Coleraine-27 Oct.1883 Stable La., Coleraine).
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1879/02923/2070863.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06347/4820893.pdf

5.   Eliza Jane O’Brien (18 June 1881 Brook St., Coleraine-28 June 1952).
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/cert_amends/cert_1881/2034432a.pdf (father deceased)
Daughter of Catherine (McIntyre) O'Brien-
6.   Ena O’Brien (24 Mar.1890 Brook St., Coleraine-21 Apr.1981) m. Alexander McClean (d.16 July 1960).
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1890/02435/1906074.pdf

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Thanks everyone. Some very interesting feedback.

BushInn1746 - I posted this question here because it was a general question but my family history is all Northern Irish, so there's no real prospect of getting any information about someone born pre 1864.

Quite untrue. Yes, there was no civil registration of births before 1864 but there are MANY other records that can give a fairly accurate date of birth.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« on: Tuesday 19 August 25 11:00 BST (UK)  »
Good to know about the Scottish R.C. baptisms but I checked for John's here in 1879 1874 just in case he was baptised here first. There's still a chance he would have been baptised in COI here, especially since Mary Jane was staying with her family here at the time.

More to post in a little while.

Thanks to Neale1961 for correcting my typo  ;)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« on: Tuesday 19 August 25 09:03 BST (UK)  »
I spent quite a bit of time extracting bits of information from my files and searching online records and the 1851 census extract shows I seem to have found all 8 of the McIntyre children. Brief outline-

Thomas McIntyre (d.bef.1861?) m. Catherine Doherty (c1813-1885 Coleraine)
1.   William McIntyre m.(1856) Elizabeth Wallace- family
2.   John McIntyre (c1834 Ire.-1863 Scot.)
3.   Thomas McIntyre (c1835-1890 Bovagh) m.(1861) Mary Jane Chestnutt- family
4.   Wilson McIntyre (c1841 Ire.-1900 Scot.) m.(1862) Jane Gage
5.   Annie/Nancy McIntyre (c1851-aft.1911)
6.   Mary Jane McIntyre (c1852-1921 Scot.) m.(1873) John Cassidy
7.   Catherine McIntyre (c1857-aft.1901) m.(1871) John O’Brien- family
8.   Elizabeth “Eliza” McIntyre m.(1888) William Letson. Family

2.   John McIntyre (c1834 Ire.-1863)
1861 Census: https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59c54961f4040bbce0d16efd/john-mcintyre-1861-renfrewshire-greenock-1836-?locale=en (John McIntyre, 25, born Ire.)
Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS6P-NL9V?lang=en

4. Wilson McIntyre (c1841 Ire.-1900 Scot.) m.(1862 Greenock) Jane “Jeanie” Gage (d.1905)
Birth: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6TLL-4441?lang=en
1861 Census: https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59ef9a2bf4040b559686fea3/wilson-mcintyre-1861-renfrewshire-greenock-1840-?locale=en (lodger Wilson McIntyre, 21, born Ire.)
Greenock Telegraph, 20 Sept.1900: Wilson McIntyre, husband of Jane, died at 14 Blackhall Street, Greenock on 18th September 1900 age 58.
Greenock Telegraph, 20 Feb.1905: Jeanie Gage, widow of Wilson McIntyre, died at 9 Bearhope Street, Greenock on 19th February 1905.
I haven't looked for further records of Wilson in Scotland.

5.   Annie/Nancy McIntyre (c1851-aft.1911)
1901- Annie with sister Catherine; 1911- Nancy with O’Brien family

More to follow when I get back home.

Regarding Mary Jane's birthplace- she was almost certainly born in Co. Londonderry, Ireland not Co, Donegal.
The baptism in Dec.1879 is interesting. Mary Jane McIntyre (Church of Ireland) married John Cassidy in Scotland in 1874 and son born Aug.1879 in Ireland. A few months later there is the adult baptism- wonder if son was baptised in Ireland or Scotland as a Catholic around that time.

Added- no baptism for John Cassidy in Errigal or Coleraine R.C. parishes in 1879. Unfortunately St. Guaire's (COI), Aghadowey baptisms don't start until 1882. St. Paul's (COI), Garvagh baptisms start 1873 but are in local custody.

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Kilkenny / Re: Michael Halloran
« on: Monday 18 August 25 15:54 BST (UK)  »
Re-baptism is a slightly different thing.
A local man (Presbyterian) married a Catholic woman and their children were baptised as Catholic soon after birth. The wife died when the children were quite young and husband married second time to a Presbyterian woman. The ink was no sooner dried on the marriage record than the children were re-baptised as Presbyterian.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« on: Monday 18 August 25 11:36 BST (UK)  »
A Thomas McIntyre & Mary Jane Ches[t]nut[t] of Ballygally [Ballygawley] had a son Wilson in 1882-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1882/02786/2022641.pdf

The marriage has his father as Thomas McIntyre, labourer (deceased). The groom living in the townland of Movenis outside Garvagh-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09607/5483836.pdf
IF the deceased father Thomas was the husband of Catherine Dogherty then it means he died before registration of births in Ireland.

IF this Thomas McIntyre is connected to the family in question then I'm pretty sure I have lots of details on them in my files.

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