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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Monday 07 July 25 17:20 BST (UK)  »
Just got her death certificate and she was born in Wales on 02/02/1907.  I have searched Find My Past but even with * I have not come up with her family.  If anyone has any ideas, would love to have them
Thanks Sheila

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Sunday 29 June 25 11:55 BST (UK)  »
I don’t know anything about the divorce, but Wilga had quite a colourful family and with connections to the Balarat Jam Company
I don’t have any birth certificates
From all the investigations and help from RootsChat I think that Charles Barrie possibly married Wilga in a hurry, regretted it, was a drinker and philanderer and probably met Fay in 1927 or earlier when he was a traveller for paintings
From ship records we know that he was with Fay from at least 1930 and she is always referred to as Mrs Sutcliffe although that may not be true.  They could have married elsewhere as the 1936 Trove article
“ She has already spent five years in New Zealand, a year in the South Seas, and several months in the southern States, which she will eventually revisit.  When she finally leaves Queensland, however, she will return to England, she hopes, via Malay, Colombo, and Bombay”
I have tried to look for a Fay Hoban with a mother’s maiden name Granville which was their son Barrie’s middle name, but not had any luck

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Sunday 29 June 25 10:16 BST (UK)  »
21/07/1922 he left UK for Cape Town (first class) a civil servant
1924    UK to Sydney
1926   CB marries Wilga Mary Austin- what month?
26/06/1926 Brisbane to Plymouth (UK) with Wilga he was a salesman
1926 UK to Australia with Wilga - he’d “shown her” to his parents and she was pregnant
03/02/1927. Peter Barrie Sutcliffe born
04/07/27   CB left Wilga.  He appears in court for not paying maintenance and is a traveller for paintings
1929 March   CB given probation for fraud working for Dominion Portraiture Company
1930 May   CB and Fay left Auckland for Fiji
1930 September CB and Fay return from Fiji to Auckland with 3 month baby Barrie Grenville
1935   Fay Ellen Sutcliffe Born Brisbane
1936    Fay and CB in Brisbane
07/11/1937    Alison Marie Sutcliffe Born Auckland NZ
1939. “Stuck” in NZ because of the war
1948 ? May Auckland to London with Fay and 3 children he secretary, she artiste

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Sunday 29 June 25 10:11 BST (UK)  »
It was a png file, maybe too big, but it stopped me sending anything else.  Later it came up about RootsChat knowing about the problem and I think it said it was fixing it

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Sunday 29 June 25 08:14 BST (UK)  »
There were problems with Rootschat and sending stuff, so I gave up.
Very interesting about the birth in Fiji - thanks.  They travelled all over the place and were quite itinerant,  The Trove article confirmed this when they were in New Zealand.  I am pretty sure Charles Barrie was getting money from trust funds.  His origins were Yorkshire and I have plenty on the Sutcliffe family except this branch

I must do a time line,  and have ordered Fay’s death certificate with the hope it gives more information

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Peter Barrie son of Charles and Wilga - divorced. Charles Barrie went on to have three more children with Fay
Charles Barrie was done for fraud in NZ employed by Dominion Portrait Company date 1929.  Got 2 years probation as it was his first offence
Fay Hoban miniatures can be seen online

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 18:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone, she is a bit of a mystery as always!

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 18:24 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, there is no record of an Ellen Hoban on the General Register Office

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How to Use RootsChat (Please don't post requests here) / Re: Fay Ellen Hoban
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 18:00 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the replies, I have no marriage details for Peter and Fay
They lived in New Zealand and came to the UK after the war
Peter was a bit of a rogue!

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