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Family History Beginners Board / Re: 2nd Great Grandfather John Halpin - where was he buried in Ilford
« on: Sunday 02 November 25 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: jonwarrn on Wednesday 15 October 25 16:17 BST (UK)
Carole, it's not so far from Whitechapel to Ilford! Or Manor Park to be precise, if we are talking about the City of London Cemetery.
At that time the CoL was more for people from East London than Essex.

A funeral service being held somewhere doesn't mean that the burial also took place there.
Does ResearchJu know where any other family members are buried?
The most likely place for a catholic from the area to be buried is St Patricks Catholic Cemetery in Leytonstone.
You would think that a guy like that who had such a big funeral would have a grave memorial, but so far nothing has come up :(

Thanks very much Jon and Rosie.  I contacted St Patricks and they did indeed have details of John Halpin's burial.  I had previously got a copy of John's will and his money did go to his children.  I will endeavour to go and visit John's grave but I think it is unlikely there is a memorial there as it is in the oldest part of the cemetery. 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: 2nd Great Grandfather John Halpin - where was he buried in Ilford
« on: Wednesday 15 October 25 18:26 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: familydar on Wednesday 15 October 25 16:00 BST (UK)
If the funeral was at Ilford cemetery I'd expect him to be planted there.  I believe Essex Archives hold church records but I'm not sure about cemetery records (assuming Ilford cemetery was a dedicated cemetery and not a churchyard).

He may have had family at Ilford, but if not he may have been buried there because anything more local was full up.

Jane :-)

These are the Essex Records I looked at so it doesn't look like these are the cemetery records? It's headed up Burials in the Parish of Great Ilford in the county of Essex.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: 2nd Great Grandfather John Halpin - where was he buried in Ilford
« on: Wednesday 15 October 25 18:10 BST (UK)  »
Thanks all.  I'll try and make contact with St Patricks and let you know the outcome.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: 2nd Great Grandfather John Halpin - where was he buried in Ilford
« on: Wednesday 15 October 25 15:44 BST (UK)  »
This is the funeral announcement saying it will leave Scarborough Street.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: 2nd Great Grandfather John Halpin - where was he buried in Ilford
« on: Wednesday 15 October 25 15:42 BST (UK)  »
I've attached the newspaper article which says Ilford Cemetery.  He was living at 25 Scarborough Street, Whitechapel at his death which as you say is a long way away.  I'm confused ...

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Family History Beginners Board / 2nd Great Grandfather John Halpin - where was he buried in Ilford
« on: Wednesday 15 October 25 10:49 BST (UK)  »
Good morning!  I'm looking for some help searching for the burial place of my 2nd Great Grandfather John Halpin.  He died suddenly on 26th May 1889 in Whitechapel.  An inquest was held and the funeral took place at Ilford Cemetery on 1st June 1889.  He was quite a character and was a member of the Liberals and Radical party.  Hence there was a large concourse of people and carriages.  This was recorded in the newspaper and the coffin was made of polished oak.

I have looked up the records of City of London Cemetery and Crematorium but his burial is not listed there.  I have also looked up the Essex Archives which shows records of Ilford, Little Ilford and Chadwell but again he is not listed there.  He may have been buried as a Catholic which could have meant he would have been buried at St Mary's, Buckingham Road, Ilford but that should have appeared on the Essex Archives record.

I am at a loss as where to search next and would be grateful for any pointers.  Thank you.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: misdemeanour in service
« on: Thursday 05 June 25 18:38 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: AlanBoyd on Thursday 05 June 25 18:26 BST (UK)
Looking at various newspaper items I get the impression that it refers to situations where employees commit an offence against their employer, which possibly was considered an aggravating circumstance. For example:

21 November 1868: Reading Mercury
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John Dance, and George White were charged with a misdemeanour in service, on the 17th inst., at Midgham. The accused are farm labourers to Mr. Stephen Tomlinson, of Midgham. Mr. Tomlinson had occasion to go to Reading on the I7th inst., and next morning he found that the window of his cellar, which had been left closed, was partly open, and it appeared that the defendants had got in and helped themselves to beer. Fined 9s. 9d. each, and costs 5s. 3d. each.

That's great, thank you very much!

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Family History Beginners Board / misdemeanour in service
« on: Thursday 05 June 25 18:10 BST (UK)  »
Hello
Does anyone know what misdemeanour in service means?  One of my ancestors was given one month's hard labour in Berkshire Gaol for this crime?
Thanks in advance.

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Occupation Interests / Re: Master Hairdressers
« on: Sunday 16 February 25 11:44 GMT (UK)  »
The Hairdressing Journals are held/or can be viewed at the British Library in London.  Unfortunately the Library had a cyber attack in October 2024 and this has affected their services.  You need to go to the Library first to get a Reader Card taking documents to prove your identity https://www.bl.uk/research/reader-pass/.  Then you can order the Hairdressing Journals which come in Yearly books but this has to be done on a separate visit https://bl.libguides.com/requesting!.  They are quite interesting and hold information about obituaries, bankruptcies and articles along with adverts.  You are only able to order 6 years worth as one order and up to 4 orders, if that makes sense.  I have been once and looked up a couple of years but hoping to go back and research more. 

Quote from: iluleah on Sunday 24 September 17 16:15 BST (UK)
My training was in London and I achieved Master Craftman status and  spent many years traveling the world competing for the UK (as well as running a business).

My mother also a Master craftsman, was trained by Raymond Bessone ( known as Teasy Weasy and  Britain's first celebrity hairdresser) he had a salon in Soho, he also trained people like Vidal Sassoon and I remember both of them very well as both along with their families spent time at our home over the years.

However there is no hairstylists prior to my mother in my ancestry, my mothers God mother was one as was her husband, so I think my mothers inspiration was from them.

The Hairdressers Journal was THE magazine which was/is a source of information for the industry, anyone who was/is anyone in the industry will be in that and it has been in print monthly for at least 100yrs so if you can find out where they are archived that will be a good sources

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