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Just some information about the hospital and the doctor to go with the Death certificate.

IMPROVED HOSPITAL
FOR ARARAT?
-_
£19,000 Remodelling Plan
ARARAT, Wednesday plan to remodel the Ararat District Hospital at a cost of about £18,000 or £18,500, and to alter the infectious diseases ward at a cost of about £1,000, was submitted to
the hospital committee last night by a Melbourne firm of architects. Reconstruction of the main building to provide a long single-story facade is proposed.
The plan provides for the total accommodation of 43 beds, excluding the midwifery wards, but Including wards for intermediate patients.
Dr. de Crespigny said that the medical staff favoured the proposal to make the hospital modem, and it was generally felt that the present time was opportune to improve accommodation.
| The building committee will consider the plan before holding a conference with the inspector of charities. The Colac Hospital will be Inspected.

Published 20 September 1934
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10970212

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Dr Frank de Crespigny,  George was certainly under the care of one of the best doctors.  God knows, we have a frightening shortage of medical physicians in the Central HighlandsGrampians Region of Victoria now. 


FRANCIS PHILIP CHAMPION de CRESPIGNY
DOCTOR, MAYOR
28-5-1918 - 20-9-2010

BY MICHAEL COLLINS PERSSE

FRANK de Crespigny, a revered general practitioner at Ararat for 41 years and a former mayor of the south-western Victorian town, has died in Geelong after a fall. He was 92.

He came from an ancient family whose name "Champion" derived from descent in the male line from custodians of the castle of Falaise, birthplace of William the Conqueror, and hence Champions to the Dukes of Normandy. A 17th-century Richard Champion married the sole heiress of the Comtes de Crespigny. Their son, Champion de Crespigny and an officer in the French army, but a Huguenot, crossed the English Channel when persecution of Protestants revived and became a colonel in the British army.

Five generations later, Philip Champion de Crespigny, who in 1852 arrived in Victoria, was a gold warden and magistrate at Ararat. His elder son, twice married, fathered six sons of whom the second, Sir Trent, a founder and president of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, was an older half-brother of Frank's father, Francis. [...]

Knowing his patients thoroughly, practising true "medical friendship", he became a skilled surgeon, anaesthetist, and obstetrician, trusted for his kindness and clinical acumen.

(continued at link)
https://www.smh.com.au/national/a-medical-all-rounder-on-the-rounds-of-ararat-20101029-177gd.html


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I don't know much about Australian genealogy. Is there likely to be a marriage cert or death cert for George which provides names of his parents?  :)

Are you in Australia?  If not, current exchange rates are in your favour.  To order a digital copy from Victoria is $22, that's GBP 11.19  or USD 14.08

You could go down the path of DNA testing, assuming you are a direct descendant of George Baker and Mary Iles, and want to bust through that brickwall.

Australian date format is day/month/year.



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I would speculate that the obituary referenced legitimate children - daughters born within wedlock - and it is possible that George BAKER was born illegitimately to another woman, under her name in the records. Maybe "father unknown" officially.  Not giving his mother's name for the marriage certificate politely conceals his illegitimacy and, perhaps, her profession.  You don't have George Baker's birth certificate located?

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Australia / Re: Coroners report
« on: Friday 25 August 23 21:38 BST (UK)  »
Name   Samuel Mudford
Birth Year   abt 1823
Birth Place   Somersetshire, England
Death Year   Abt 1899
Death Place   Johnsons Creek Port Stephens
Inquest Date   3 Feb. 1899
Inquest Place   Johnsons Creek Dist of Stroud

Natural causes, heart syncope  Dr Wright.


The Coroner's Inquest is attached to his profile on Ancestry in the
Crebert/ Maurer/Wear/ Goodenough Family Tree

From TROVE
Published 4 Feb 1899 Evening News (Sydney, NSW)  page 4

Mr. Samuel Mudford, 78, of Johnson's Creek,
near Stroud, one of the pioneers of the district,
was found dead in bed yesterday morning.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113708222
'

and another one from TROVE

Mr. Samuel Mudford, 78, of Johnson's Creek,
near Stroud, one of the pioneers of the district,
was found dead in bed cn February 3.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/71323822

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So have you now purchased the Marriage Certificate, or otherwise, where does the information come from re father John BAKER and mother UK?

Sue


I had purchased the Marriage Certificate and attached it.  See reply #15.



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This seems to be John Baker & Hannah Pride

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201500343/john-baker

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You won't get much information off George's death certificate #17661/1944 as he most likely passed away an inmate of Aradale Mental Asylum, where very elderly folks with 'senile decay' were sent for care. 

https://www.aradale.com.au/

I checked on prov.vic.gov.au and there's no inquest record for George

https://prov.vic.gov.au/

Your best source of information regarding George's parents will be the marriage certificate which isn't all that helpful.   

13 April 1874  at "The Manse" Avoca, in the rites of the Presbyterian Church

George Baker, 26, of Amphitheatre , labourer
Father: John BAKER; mother unknown.
Born: Adelaide, South Australia

to

Mary Iles, 16, of Amphiteatre
Father John ILES; mother Ellen WHITE (who was one of the witnesses)



MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE IS ATTACHED


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Australia / Re: How Oz are you?
« on: Tuesday 01 February 22 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
Not very.  Only 4th generation born in Australia on my mum's side through her
mother and grandmother who was born in 1857 in Mt Blackwood, Victoria of Scots immigrants.

My dad was a ex-RAF serviceman who emigrated arrived at Fremantle on 25 Jan 1947 (from his last posting at Singapore) as part of a first wave of ten pound poms that tend to be overlooked by the subsequent migrations of the 50s and 60s.  The 10 pound fee was waived.

In March 1946 the Australian and British Governments signed an agreement to provide free passage to Australia for ex-British Servicemen and their dependents.




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Australia / Re: Fawkner Cemetery
« on: Tuesday 21 December 21 02:01 GMT (UK)  »

Magdey, 

You can also put in a photo request at Find A Grave

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/1967502/fawkner-memorial-park

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