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Leicestershire / Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« on: Saturday 14 December 13 05:14 GMT (UK)  »
See Repy #51.
Marriage Index: Jessie Jones & Hannah Cooper, Q3 1841, Mk. Bosworth, Vol. 15, Page 203.
Marriage Certificate reads:
1841.
Marriage solemnized by Licence in the Parish of Thornton, in the County of Leicester.
Entry No. 43, September 11.
Jesse Jones, aged 29, Bachelor, Silk (Mercer), residing Islington, father William Jones, (Occupation? This would be a guess) and Hannah Cooper, aged 21, Spinster, Gentleman's Daughter, living at Thornton, father Thomas Cooper, Gentleman.
Married in the (St. Peter's) Parish Church, according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church of England, by me, Samuel Adams, Curate. Both signed in the presence of Thomas Cooper (Father?), Sarah Goodrich (Possibly - her brother, William Newberry Cooper's, future second wife Martha's, sister), and Rich(a)d. Nuttall, (Draper- her sister Marianne Cooper's husband).
Comments:
The sloping writing is not easy to read hence the Index has: Jessie instead of Jesse.
His father, William Jones's occupation could be anything.
It can be assumed that because the family were from Wootton, Northamptonshire, that his trade may have been in connection with either silk or shoes.
It can also be assumed that Hannah forsook her nonconformist views of her parents at the time of her Christening/Baptism and had adopted the Established Church at that particular time in her life.

St. Peter's Church at Thornton is in the most beautiful of settings above the Thornton reservoir. It is also where her great grandparents, John and Sarah Cooper's slate Memorial/tombstone is set in the floor near the altar in the Lady Chapel.
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7VyTOpRVk
Also See: http://www.markfieldcofe.co.uk/thornton.html
It could also be assumed that Jesse and Richard Nuttall were friends and possibly that he was the best man, that they were certainly in the silk and cloth drapery business's, as other data and later family events have proved.
There could also be some significance of the fact that Sarah Goodrich signed as second witness, which will be researched further.




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Leicestershire / Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« on: Wednesday 20 November 13 07:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Willsy
Referring back to reply 41 and 44. Hannah Cooper who married Jesse Jones. Q3 1841 (I have sent for the marriage cert to prove their names and the parents). I notice that they also had a son Ernest Seymour Jones Q1 1861 (see Cambridge Alumni) who married Sarah Jane Clifford Senior Q1 1889. They had a son Arthur Seymour Jones Q1 1891. Sarah and Arthur were with the aforesaid Marianne Nuttall nee Cooper (Hannah's sister) at Horninglow, Burton, on the 1901 census as visitors. Before today I did not know if and how they were related. Sadly young Arthur died shortly after at Scarborough.

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Leicestershire / Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« on: Sunday 10 November 13 18:32 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Willsy
Your look up info on Hannah Cooper (1820 - 1883) has been inspiring and ironically timely! Especially as this week we are all aware of Soldiers at War over the years - Past and Present.
Since last night I have found that:
Hannah Cooper married Jesse Jones and they had a daughter,
Caroline Ada Jones (1844 -1902) who married
George William Tripp (1829 - 1904) and they had a son,
William Henry Lainson Tripp (1881 - 1959). Or to give him his full title.
Lieutenant General William Henry Lainson TRIPP, C.B., D.S.O., M.C., and A.D.C. to His Majesty the King.
An unmarried? Professional Soldier. He was my second cousin twice removed and his military record at the National Archives I have just downloaded.
Yesterday I did not know he existed. Today I know he may have ended so many fighting soldiers lives?
 

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Leicestershire / Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« on: Sunday 10 November 13 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks anyway.
It has enabled me to trace Jessie/Jesse Jones b.abt. 1813, the silk merchant from Wootton, Northampton and Hannah Cooper from 1841 at Thornton through to her possible death in London in 1882. They had three daughters and one son. One of the daughters had ten children. The connections to silk merchants is significant as it was also important to several others from this Cooper family.
Register of Births and Baptisms. Bardon Park & Ashby de la Zouch Chapels (Presbyterian), 1756 to 1837. Year - 1821.
Hannah, Daughter of Thos. Cooper and Mary (Ward) his wife, of the Parish of Thornton, in the County of Leicester (born on the 15th Day of August 1820) was baptised on the 3rd Day of February 1821, by me, Thos. Owen. Protestant Dissenting Minister.
Hannah was also a witness at her elder sister Marianne Cooper's marriage to Richard Nuttall on 14 Jan 1840 at Thornton, Leicestershire.

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Leicestershire / Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« on: Sunday 10 November 13 05:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Willsy - This Cooper family is also my direct ancestors.
Going backwards:
Jane Cooper 1837 - 1922 - My Great Grandmother
William Ward Cooper 1807 - 1839 (Poor fellow!)
Thomas Cooper 1782 - 1863
Thomas Cooper 1736 - 1797
John Cooper 1709 -1784 Buried in the Lady Chapel, St. Peters Church, Thornton
Thomas Cooper abt. 1684

Please can you give me any more details of the marriage in your reply No 14?
It reads:
'John Jones M MARR Hannah Cooper 11 SEP 1841 William Jones  Thomas Cooper
G: 29 silk manu, B: 21 gentleman's
daughter Wit: Thomas Cooper & Sarah Goodrich
Thornton 1841 Thomas 59 grazier and Hannah 20
HO107; Piece: 603;  Folio: 12; Page: 18'

Could the John Jones above be Jessie Jones by any chance? Q3 1841, Market Bosworth, Vol. 15, Page 203. If not then please add here the full web site address.
Kind regards
banorwood



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Leicestershire / Re: NEWEY burials at Ashby de la Zouch
« on: Sunday 11 July 10 05:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi Shirley
I have a recent copy of the 'Memorial Inscriptions of Ashby de la Zouch' CD produced by their Museum. There is no mention or picture of a gravestone for Newey at either St Helen's or Holy Trinity.

I have found the Museum most helpful in the past.

Ask them to see if they can help - their fees (a donation) are very reasonable:

ashbydelazouchmuseum.org.uk

Good luck
Jim

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Herefordshire / Re: Baggott family
« on: Sunday 25 April 10 04:23 BST (UK)  »
Yes - to all three places - but more specifically Bosbury.
If you would like to contact me on:
jim.north@wanadoo.fr
We can compare our data and sources.

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Staffordshire completed Look up Requests / Re: benjamin yates death
« on: Sunday 28 March 10 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Shirley
Is that in Find my past? as Ancestry.co.uk clearly has it as Yates
Benjamin Yates aged 72
Ann Yates aged 66
Louisa Yates aged 9
They had Benjamin Willes Grandson aged 19 I have recommended they change it to Wilkes
All living at Sched 210, James Bridge Public House? Walsall.
Jim

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Staffordshire completed Look up Requests / Re: benjamin yates death
« on: Sunday 28 March 10 06:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sharon-Lee
Is it possible that Michael Goodall Yates parents were Benjamin Yates and Ann Baggott?
Is it possible that Ann Baggott was born Darlaston 1795, c. 5 Feb 1795 d. Q1 1867?
Is it possible that her parents were Moses Baggott b 27 Aug 1770 and Sarah Wilkes b. 4 Apr 1769?
Are you aware that this Baggott line is well documented back to Lewis Bagot b. 1460, at Blithfield Hall, Staffs?
Have we been in contact anywhere else before?
If not then maybe if you contacted me on
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then we may be able to share some more data on the BAGGOTT's and BAGOT's?. Plus a few YATES.
I lookforward to your reply
Jim
I seem to have come in someway down this thread - but if any other contributors are interested in these Yates / Baggott's / Bagot's - then please contact me.
For his death - look at Benjamin Yates, 1861 Q4, Walsall, Staffordshire, Vol. 6b, Page. 296. (Crown Copyright acknowledged).
Best to buy the cert this weekend before the price rise on 6 Apr.
Is he also on the 1861 Census at Walsall?

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