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Essex / Re: LADELL (CAMPLING) Family, West Ham
« on: Tuesday 16 May 06 21:09 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

It is amazing what you have discovered! I am very grateful to be shown this. If therer is anything I find I will post it immediately. All good wishes. Dr.JRS.

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Essex / Re: LADELL (CAMPLING) Family, West Ham
« on: Tuesday 16 May 06 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Jean,

Good to be in topuch with you and others!

Just half an hour ago a relative [not a Laell] suggestedo me that the Laells married the Kell family (1881 census). I have not yet tired to check this. Best wishes. John.

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Essex / Re: LADELL (CAMPLING) Family, West Ham
« on: Tuesday 16 May 06 16:35 BST (UK)  »
Dear Margaret,

You are a fifty five gold star top super angel!!!! MANY thanks for all the time and trouble, and all the information, which is fascinating. I am so VERY grateful. I'll explore the 1861 link, too.

I have also discovered another Roote relative today, who I'm going to meet tomorrow. He has other other material, and we will share.

I'll keep you in touch on this. I think I did sned my geneaology report on the Roote's? But if not, I'll gladly do this. It has a lot of information. If you'd like copies of any certificates which I have I'll gladly send these.

All warmest wishes & many thanks again. John.

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Essex / Re: LADELL (CAMPLING) Family, West Ham
« on: Monday 15 May 06 14:21 BST (UK)  »
Dear M,

Many thanks for your reply.

For some reason, my notes show that I was not able to find Maria ROOTE on the 1861 census. I must look again.

Alas, I have not found any children yet, but mean to look.

I will be glad to share the certificates I have, if this would help you.

These are:

Maria Ladell (as she then was, of course): death, 13.8.1892 (reported by Robert Ladell, widower, of 10 Marion Sq., Bethnal  Green).

I do not have her birth, which preceded the beginning of registration,  but I do have a baptism entry.

Robert Ladell: death, 7.2.1909 (reported by S.Tunstall, Sister, of 2 Carmathen Street, Islington).

Harry Robert Ladell: birth, 21.12.1853 (at Coslany in the County and City of Norwich, in Sussex Street, St.Augustine's, Norwich).

Harry Robert Ladell: death, 10.6.1902 (reported by A.C.Ladell,  Mother, of 18 Brierly Road, Leytonstone).

Ann Campling Ladell: death, 30.1.1905 (reported by A.H.Pipe, Son in law, of 23 Worsley Road, Came [?] Hall).

And the following, which are either definitely or possibly related, but which I have not been able to connect properly:

Bertie Gordon Ladell: death, 14.7.1890 (reported by A.M.Ladell, Mother, of 50 Wetherell Road, South Hackney). [A brother of Harry Robert Ladell, it seems].

Richard George Ladell:death 21.8.1904 (reported by H.Ladell, Mother, of 2 Brand Street, Islington). Son of George Ladell, a cab driver.

Emma Ladell: death, 8.4.1897 ay Hackney Union Infirmary. Wife of Harry Ladell, Traveller, of 431 Kingsland Road, West Hackney. The wife of Harry Robert Ladell, above?

Edwin Stephen Ladell: death, 16.7.1`889, son of Alcie Maud Ladell, domestic servant (reported by A.M.Ladell, Mother, of 50 Wetherell Road, South Hackney). An illegitimate daughter?

I would be very grateful to hear from you and if you have sorted out the line I'd love to have details.

Best wishes. Dr.JRS.


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Hello reseachers,

Is anyone else working on this family, please?

I am descended from a Frederick SPIERS (also known as Spiers, Spires, and Spirers). He was a bricklayer, born in Camberwell in c.1855. He died in Wandsworth 1928, a pauper. He had married Elizabeth Jane CAMPION, born c.1857 in Newington. I cannot find them in parish records. 

There is another SPIERS family who married into the HUMPHREYS family. They had children of the same names, but we do not seem to be connected.

The family I seek were, it seems, variously in Newington, Walworth, Camberwell, Wandsworth, and then in Fulham, in the 19th century.

The first Frederick Spires or Spiers, of the previous generation, was also, it seems a bricklayer.  He had married  Francis (surname not known) , born c.1832 in Walworth. Their children were William (born c.1853), Frederick (1855, above), John (c.1857), Emma c.(1859), and Henry (c.1866).

One of Frederick's sons was Henry William Spiers (1832--1930). He married Ada Adelaide TOOLEY (1885-1955) in St.Catherine's, Hatcham, on 11 July 1909.

Does anyone else have any links or is anyone working on any of these?

Please be in touch so we can share.

Best wishes. DrJRS

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Hello searchers,

Can anyone offer any connections to the ROOTE or ROOT family, please, in Hackney, Hoxton, & Shoreditch in the 19th century?

I am descended from WILLIAM ROOTE, who was in Hackney at the beginning of the 19th century. He was a doorman at The India House, East India Company HQ in the City of London, and later a Labourer. He married SARAH ANNE. Their dates are not yet known.

A son was THOMAS ROOTE (1804-1857). Other children were ELLEN, JOSIAH, and SARAH ANNE.

Thomas Roote was a Widnsor chairmaker, journeyman. He married MARY ELIZA SIMMONS (c.1811-1866). They had 14, possibly 15, children. Some were stonemasons and marblemasons/marble polishers

One was ALFRED (also known as ARTHUR) ROOT (1851-1920).

He married EDITH ROTHERA DOYLE (also known as Jane) in 1879. She was born in Derby or Nottingham in  c.1861. She also gave her birthplace, wrongly, as Bethnal Green. She died 1943 in Dartford, Kent.

One of their children was EDWARD EVERITT ROOT, my Grandfather. He was born 4 December 1882 in Holborn Workhouse - does anyone know of aphoto or drawing of this Workhouse? unable to find any!. He was was killed at Ypres on 19 July 1915. I have his Army papers.

One of his four children was my Mother Kate (1907-1976).

I hope to find other links to the ROOTE'S & any other information, and will gladly share what I have.

The various ROOTE siblings married into the families of WARREN, LADELL, BEDDOE, HAWKINS, MITCHELL, BANKS, FOINETTE BURROWS, LE MAY, and BROUGHTON families in the East End.

Please be in touch.

Best wishes. DrJRS

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Essex / Re: LADELL (CAMPLING) Family, West Ham
« on: Wednesday 10 May 06 10:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jean,

I'm new to this. I posted a reply with LADELL info today - not sure if it goes to all on the list? Best wishes. DrJRS.

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Essex / Re: LADELL (CAMPLING) Family, West Ham
« on: Wednesday 10 May 06 10:09 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I have just joined. I hope the following is helpful. I am related to the LADELL family, as follows, and so would like to know more about them:

My Mother's name was ROOT (it was ROOTE in the 19th century).

Her line goes back to THOMAS ROOTE (1804-1857), a Windsor Chairmaker in Shoreditch, and to his Father a WILLIAM ROOTE (dates not certain), at one time a Doorman at the East India Company in Leadenhall Street, City of London, and later a Labourer in Hackney.

One of Thomas Roote's daughters, MARIA ROOTE, married  ROBERT LADELL at St.James parish church, Shoreditch, Middx on 12 September 1866. He was then 26, a bachelor,  a Furniture Broker. She was 28, spinster, no employ given. The groom's Father was given as ROBERT STEPHEN LADELL.

She died aged 53 on 13 August 1892. They were then living at 10 Marion Square, Bethnal Green.

He died, if I have the right man, on 7 February 1909 at Shoreditch Infirmary, and was given as a Marble Polisher.

The ROOTE's were also marble polishers and stone-masons.

I have copies of the marriage, and death certificates referred to above.

MARIA ROOTE was born c.1837. She was baptised at St.Leonard's, Shoreditch on 2 July 1837. She was one of 14, possibly 15, children. Her Mother was MARY ELIZA SIMMONS (c.1811-1866).

In addition, the book by Pat Kirkham, Rodney Mace and Julia Porter, 'Furnishing The World: The East London Furniture Trade 1830-1980 (London, Journeyman Press, 1987), says that R.Ladell & Son of Hackney Road were specialising as debt collectors to the furniture trade (p.15). This looks likely to be the family with the tobacconists in Hackney Road?

I plan next week to check this in the 'Furniture Gazette' at Colindale.

Any other information on the families would be very much welcome.

Best wishes.

DrJRS

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