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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: 1901 - Rooms Occupied
« on: Monday 20 December 21 08:46 GMT (UK)  »
I've just started reading 'The Five' by Hallie Rubenhold which gives a fairly gruesome description of living conditions in London in the late 1880s (for the poor obviously!).  People living in lodging houses with "all lodgers...entitled to make use of the communal kitchen which was open all day and late into the night." (Ch 1).  Ch 2 continues 'most families shared one room, the average size of which measured from 8 feet to 10 feet, by 8 feet, and from 6 to 8 feet from floor to ceiling...one large timber-framed and plaster house had been subdivided into three separate dwellings, before being apportioned once more into individually rented rooms.' 

A bit earlier than the period you're looking for but gives an idea of what it may have been like. 

I can highly recommended the book by the way if anyone is interested in Victorian history!

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Other Countries / Re: INDIA: Sgt-Major Evangelist Davis (looking for info)
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 11:17 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Brentor boy on Saturday 27 November 21 11:02 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Milliepede on Friday 26 November 21 22:44 GMT (UK)
4 possible birth registrations for Mary Eleanor Davies

Mar 1852 Pembroke mothers maiden name Roberts
Jun 1852 Crickhowell mothers maiden name Lloyd

the other two are Cardiff and Warrington areas
Flintshire and Monmouthshire at extreme North/South Wales.
Perhaps a closer look at Crickhowell birth may be worth while.

Thank you - will try that one and see what comes up

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Other Countries / Re: INDIA: Sgt-Major Evangelist Davis (looking for info)
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 10:32 GMT (UK)  »
Have just relooked at the original info from my aunt.  She said "Mary Eleanor was born in Monmouth and went to school [doesn't say where] until the age of 18 - quite rare at that time".  I'll have another look at 1871 census and see if I can see her as a scholar anywhere

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: 1901 St helier Jersey- Julius Hettich
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 10:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hettich have just moved into premises opposite the original store in St Helier this week - see announcement of the story earlier this year - https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2021/07/21/end-of-an-era-as-hettich-plans-to-cross-king-street/

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: William Pierce -soldier- 1782 St. Clement, Jersey -seeking info-
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 10:00 GMT (UK)  »
Just seen on that FB group that 'the islandwiki.org' is being phased out so better to use the new website - www.jerripedia.org

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Other Countries / Re: INDIA: Sgt-Major Evangelist Davis (looking for info)
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 09:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the replies so far!  Here we go with all the info I have:

Mary Davies married John Davey (my 2nd g-grandfather) on 5th March 1877 in the Parish Church of Calverley, Yorkshire.  He was a cordwainer (aka shoemaker), age 31, she was a domestic servant, age 26.  Her father on this certificate is listed as Evan Davies, occupation 'carrier'.  The family appear on 1881 census in Pudsey:
John Davey, 35, Shoemaker, b Pudsey, Yorkshire
Mary Davey, 29, b North Wales
Mary Hannah Davey, 3, b Pudsey, Yorkshire
William Davey, 9 months, b Pudsey, Yorkshire

Mary's husband John died on 25th June 1884 in Pudsey.

On 23rd January 1886, Mary Davey married Martin Gilligan in Bradford.  She is listed as age 30, a widow in Pudsey, with her father Evangelist Davis (deceased) as Sergeant Major in the Army.

Mary and Martin had a son, Denis Charles, born 14 May 1888 in Pudsey (he was killed in WW1)..

1891 census, Pudsey:

Martin Gilligan, age 40, Masons Labourer, b Ireland
Marie Gilligan, age 36, b Flint, Wales
Mary Hannah Davey, age 13 b Pudsey
William Davey, age 10, b Pudsey
John Davey, age 4, b Pudsey
Dennis Gilligan, age 2, b Pudsey

Martin Gilligan died  in 1894 and I believe she married for a final time, George Watson Wear(e) but haven't found the marriage cert yet.

In 1901 census (Pudsey), Marie Wear is living with George her husband, William Davey, Mary Hannah Davey, John Davey, Catherine Wear and Ethel Wear.  George died on 22 Feb 1910.

In 1911 census (Pudsey), Mary E Wear (widow) age 55, born Flint, Flintshire, is living with Denis Charles Gilligan, Mary Hannah Davey and Ethel Gregson (listed as adopted daughter).

Mary Eleanor Wear buried 9 Oct 1936 and is buried in Pudsey General Cemetery in a shared plot with Hannah Wear, George Watson Wear.  Her first husband John Davey is also buried in Pudsey General Cemetery with her 2nd husband, Martin Gilligan and two other family members.

With a surname of Davies/Davis I'm struggling to find her birth certificate.  There are several Mary Davies in the 1871 census who are servants.  Her father Evan Davies/Davis is a common name but Evangelist Davies/Davis is now proving tricky to find too.   And as for her mother or any other family - I have no idea sadly.

It's the story of her father and the Indian uprising that is now my quest having found out quite a bit about Mary Eleanor (apart from her early life).

THANK YOU!

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Other Countries / INDIA: Sgt-Major Evangelist Davis (looking for info)
« on: Friday 26 November 21 17:13 GMT (UK)  »
My 2nd great-grandmother Mary Eleanor Davies is my brick wall!  According to family stories, she was born of a 2nd marriage and her father, serving in the Indian Army, lost his first wife and two daughters during an Indian uprising. He was listed as Evan Davies (carrier?) on her first marriage certificate but this week I got a copy of her second marriage certificate.  This lists her father as 'Evangelist Davis (deceased), Sergeant Major in the Army' so I was hopeful of finding him with this rather unusual first name.  Alas, there is no sign.

I have no other info except he was already deceased in 1886 and that Mary Eleanor Davies/Davis was born around 1852 in North Wales or Flint in Wales (depending on which census you look at).

I would dearly love to find out more about this man and his family.  Any ideas much appreciated.

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