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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Another missing Pope from East Stonehouse, Devon
« on: Thursday 28 August 25 18:55 BST (UK)  »
1921 census has Mary Ann Graham working there as a nurse and the place of birth being listed as Newcastle upon Tyne so given her age in 1921 I am putting her on my list of probable people matching my missing relative.

These types of institutions provided accommodation for staff so they would be listed in the census if they were there on the night. I imagine that it would have been one of the biggest employers in the area.

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Cumberland / Re: Convent of Mercy, Wigton, Cumberland 1921 census
« on: Thursday 28 August 25 16:43 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: JenB on Thursday 28 August 25 14:37 BST (UK)
Quote from: OurAncestors on Thursday 28 August 25 09:53 BST (UK)
I would like to try to confirm these are my family find out what happened to them. What is known about this institution and is there any way of finding out? 

You can find out quite a bit about the Convent of Mercy at Wigton by using Google.

The full name was The Convent of the Sisters of Mercy, part of the Union of the Sisters of Mercy.   They seem to have an archive, so it might be worth contacting them.
There is more information and an email address here https://www.sistersofmercyunion.org.uk/our-history/archive/

Thank you for the information. I have sent an email.

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Cumberland / Re: Convent of Mercy, Wigton, Cumberland 1921 census
« on: Thursday 28 August 25 16:00 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: softly softly on Thursday 28 August 25 13:44 BST (UK)
I presume you do not have the marriage certificate of Francis Graham to mary Ann Coleman, naming his father and occupation.

Francis is in Wallsend in 1891 census aged 24.

SS

Yes have the marriage certificate and all the England census including 1911. On the certificate his father occupation is general labourer called Patrick.

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Cumberland / Re: Convent of Mercy, Wigton, Cumberland 1921 census
« on: Thursday 28 August 25 12:09 BST (UK)  »
I have a lot of information on the family including the 1911 census where thy are at 63 Bewicke Street Willington Quay. Mary Ann who died in 1918 at that address, her maiden name was Coleman.
I have completed my research on Francis and Mary Ann the parents although I'm interested in finding more about Francis's birth, according to  censuses he was born 1869 Ireland.

Her orphan daughters were Kathleen (21 6/1911), Margaret Alice (15 January, 1909)  and  Mary Ann 09.02/1902.

What I am trying to find out is whether these orphans at Wigton in 1921 who were from Willington Quay with matching ages, are my relatives and if so  happened to them afterwards. From the records which I do have the family were Roman Catholics.

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Another missing Pope from East Stonehouse, Devon
« on: Thursday 28 August 25 10:36 BST (UK)  »
The Caterham Mental Hospital seemed to be the size of a small town. I think I have found one of my family working there as a nurse. It must have employed a massive workforce as well as the inmates.
https://www.workhouses.org.uk/MAB-Caterham/
Makes it sound quite benign ?
When looking for missing deceased relatives always check the institutions!

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Cumberland / Convent of Mercy, Wigton, Cumberland 1921 census
« on: Thursday 28 August 25 09:53 BST (UK)  »
I am researching  a branch of my family called the Grahams.
 They lived in an industrial suburb of Wallsend called Willington Quay.
Their names were Francis and Mary Anne. They both died in 1918 of the flu.
 I believe I have found 2 of their orphan daughters in the 1921 census in the Convent of Mercy, Wigton, Cumberland. The ages match and the place of birth is correct. On the census it states both parents dead.
These 2 girls are listed on the census as Catherine (born about 1912) and Margaret (born about 1909). I have a birth certificate for Kathleen Graham born 1911. I think it's her.
I would like to try to confirm these are my family find out what happened to them. What is known about this institution and is there any way of finding out?  If you are able to do any local lookups or provide detail about the convent I would appreciate anything at all.
Thank you
ps  I do have the previous census records for this family.

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The Common Room / Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« on: Thursday 28 August 25 09:08 BST (UK)  »
Continuing the search for Mary Ann Graham records  I have found a record which  I am considering could be relevant, Mary Ann Graham comes up with a 1921 census from Caterham Mental hospital in which she is working as a nurse.
She was born in Newcastle upon Tyne in about 1901. She is single.
Could she be one of the missing orphans of Francis and Mary Ann who Graham who died of flu in 1918?
I am fairly sure I have found 2 of the other orphans in the 1921 census in the convent of mercy, wigton, I am going to do a separate post about them. If anyone has the skill to have a look at the Caterham Mental Hospital record and give your opinion I would be most grateful for feedback.

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Sligo / Re: Help finding John Coleman born 1845 Knocknahur Sligo
« on: Tuesday 24 June 25 11:38 BST (UK)  »
I looked at it again and I see that there are 2 Michael Colemans and family on the same page and the Michael Coleman who is a Hawker doesn’t have a son John listed.

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Sligo / Re: Help finding John Coleman born 1845 Knocknahur Sligo
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 17:44 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Kloumann on Friday 03 June 22 21:45 BST (UK)
This from 1861 census, Knaresborough. Michael Coleman, licensed Hawker & family.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:M712-ZV8

1881 census for Michael (Unlikely to be same one)

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q275-Y3Z4

Children on 1861 census have MMN of Lemmon & Kelley or Kelly for the younger ones

1881 census, Knaresborough for Ann & some of children. Son Michael is a hawker. Ann listed as a widow.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-CPNP

There is a death of a Michael Coleman in Knaresborough, 1865, age 44.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:661H-8G81

I have gone back to this again despite the fact that I had a message from someone with that record in their tree, claiming the Colemans were well off and they did not know of a John.
Because....
 I found a marriage record for Bridget Coleman who could have been "my" Johns sister, and on that record it said her father Micheal was a Hawker. Now on that 1861 census Micheal Coleman Knaresboro  the pages you get from the sites do not have a John in them. BUT if you actually load and look at  the copy of the original record there are many more children listed! There is a John , son, aged 20! So because of Bridget's father being a Hawker, I'm going to assume This is "my John. Why are so few of the children listed. There are the following children, Bridget, Margaret, John, Patrick, Micheal, Thomas, Henry, Martin! The record is incomplete without all the children.

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