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Why should he or she have a  lot of explaining to  do, they   could say they  were protecting their  beloved Grandmother,  end of story in my opinion, they have to do what they feel is right for everyone , they have to live with it if they spill the beans to soon,  but as has already been suggested, grandma might know already and doesn't want to upset others,  works both ways.
Good luck with whatever choice you make

LM

I appreciate your active input on the thread

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I think your feelings matter as well, CurleyLocks.  I feel sorry for people in these types of situations when they are made to feel so guilty and shamed for wanting to know more about their past. None of us know what is around the corner.  Sometimes it might be too late to wait around until someone has died.  Don't be guilt tripped by anyone. 
If I were in your shoes, I think I would pursue things albeit discreetly as Pfig and Cell did.  In my opinion, just because there is an over riding need to find out more this does not mean anyone loves their immediate family any less. 
Reading your stories Pfig and Cell, I think you both handled things very well.  You had a win-win situation in the sense that you met your own needs in finding things out but you were also sensitive by not sharing information which might be unwelcome.

Thank you very much, I'm happy I went through the journey and definitely learnt skills on genealogy as a whole. Had to rule out multiple people and it is truly a relief to put a name to what became a question mark 2 years ago

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In "FAMILY TREE" which is more important to you "FAMILY" or "TREE"?

It is not that easy.

Family can be Biological or Genealogical and they are not necessarily the same.

In this case “Nan” knows of the DNA test and of the parentage question that it raises.

Her negative response is not going to “put the Genie back in the bottle”, she knows what is happening and her reaction is unfair on her family.

Educate her.

But

Certainly do not miss out on contacting relatives who share your bloodline, should they pass before Nan the chance of a relationship goes with them.
Biggles have you ever had experience of this?  putting  it politely,   it is the OPs choice. Whatever they decide to do!
 I'll  never forget where you came in aggressively  to  a thread nwhen I found  my living parent  had had had  living half sibling  with  your  " the have right  to know."
It is an extremely  hard thing  to go through!!

what  is " educate her " ( as in their  nan) sorry this has totally  put  my back up!
!! Oh wow , how  derogative!!! You should  educate yourself  on  living  people ,close  kin which it affects , and not your own long  dead rellies - it's called FEELINGS,  LOVE and HURT

There are living people 
I am sure the OP knows  their family, and  thier  Nan better than you do. 
 Signing  off as I  am damn angry  with the bull that biggles is spouting off.

Thank you very much for the reply, to the comment above my nan is educated on genealogy and actively watches shows where the topic of illegitimate parentage are covered, She had no issue with me and my mum doing the DNA test she just seems quite reserved against it herself.

There is no clear answer as everyone will deal with it differently but again its the mixture of guilt of keeping secrets from her but I also dont want to stress her in a more delicate era of life

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I really think your Nan has given you her answer already with her negative feelings about DNA. Your relationship is much more important  than revelations that are likely to cause emotional harm to your Nan.
In this case I think you need to choose family over names.
Such a tough situation though, my heart goes out to you.

Thank you so much for the kind reply I do appreciate it

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Is your mother your  said nan's daughter?
If she is your nan's daughter,  what are her thoughts on the matter? 

Me, I wouldn't  tell my own  Nan if she was alive, if your Nan wanted to DNA test she would. It is up to you and your mum, you know your Nan,  we  certainly dont .

Interesting some of you wouldn't want  know if it was you in nan's position.
Nan has half siblings that she doesn't know about. My parent is in the OPs  nan's position (  my parent has a half sibling that they don't  know about)

I am in a extremely  similar position to your mother, except  it is  my grandfather who fathered an illegitmate child and not the other way about( my granddad fathered an illegitimate child overseas when he was in he army, an affair) .
I have chosen  not to tell  my parent that they have  a living half sibling. It is an extremely, extremely difficult decision to live with!  And anyone  who has ever been in the same position   will know that.


 I have been living with my decision of not informing my parent for just  over two years, it is very  hard to live with it , its not a easy decision.
That's  why I asked you, about  your  mother's thoughts, as she is closer to the situation  than you are, . Your nan's half sibling's are your  mum's half uncles/ Aunts.

I am in contact with my  half uncle ( they took a DNA test , it was how I intially found out , we both highly matched to eachother ,and it was pretty obvious.  We match very high, almost half sibling level.) .

I  assume your nan's  half siblings haven't  taken a test,  and don't  know about your mother or your Nan? ( as your mother would be highly matching to them, it would  be pretty obvious  to them that your  mother must be their half niece).

I 100%  think it's your and your mother's  decision, not strangers, and certainly not one's who have never been in this situation.
( I received flak off someone here   for making the decision  not to tell my parent that they  have a living half sibling )

It is YOUR and YOUR  MUM'S  DNA ,  it is therefore your  and your mum's decision.
For some  who think  "the truth  should be known". It is not your Nan, or  your  close family they will be hurting ,or not hurting. If we all spoke the truth,  when some of the truths can gain no good and just  hurt  the people that you care  deeply about -  what a world it would be eh.

Best of luck to whatever  you  and your mum decide, only you  and your mum  know what is best in your own family's situation ,  I know it is not an easy decision either  way  - It's  something  I have to live with everyday  not telling my parent and spend  many sleepless nights  over it - to tell  my parent, it would extremely hurt  them.
 Very Kind regards


My mum couldn't care less about genealogy or her past to be honest, I paid for her DNA test out of my income. I've told her all about it and she just laughed it off practically in one ear and out of the next. But she did exclaim me to not tell my nan about it and she lives with it more than fine, she wasn't close with her grandad at all so it makes sense I suppose

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Because you don't know whether she is already aware - you have to assume she isn't.

I think you could not only upset her but possibly damage your relationship with her if you told her - even if she admits she already knew.  She may be very embarrassed .  Some things are best left alone until the person is deceased

Thank you for the reply, its a tough situation as it feels like lying but also dont wanna risk making things difficult between her as I do know my nan can hold a grudge well

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I held a couple of similar secrets  from a  family member, she believed her father was born with my Swedish gt grandfather, she wasn't  but I didn't tell her, she was elderly  and I didn't feel I ought to upset her,  he father was born with my gt grandmother but a completely different partner, it was well documented in the papers that my gt grandmother took a man to court for paternity,   have never understood why, no DNA  in those days but he paid up, he had a wife, I am the only one who found that out, so, I suppose you could weigh the situation up, do you want to upset your family and your beloved grandmother,?,,  another thought is because she is against DNA   does she already know?.

LM
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I mean I highly doubt so, of course could be wrong but she still puts a lot of effort into doing her paper trail family tree its just mainly the DNA technology she isnt interested in. She wasn't very close with her dad that she's always known but he still raised her & provided for her.

My grandmothers sister did a DNA test and she found out she was the result of an NPE and told my grandmother about it and my grandmother reacted quite negatively not liking how she was identifying with the "new father"

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Finally after a few years I've sold the NPE of my grandmother but I was looking for some advice

Probably the standard here but my Nan is against DNA genealogy but is very active in making her own family tree, I decided to start also about 3 years ago and grew a very far branched line based off records but when I got me and my mother to do a DNA test it became quickly apparent my Nan had a different father which I researched for over a year and finally managed to pin down the person who it is and was a man who lived from 1930-2022 who died just before I discovered my connection to him.

The man had been married for 70 years from 1952-2022 and my Nan was born in 1954 and he had 2 kids with his wife born in 1953 and 1970.

All I know about my nans conception was that my great grandma (1926-1983) planning to runaway from my originally thought to be great grandad (1922-1985) because they'd been married for over 7 years and he didn't get her pregnant and she was planning to runaway with another man but suddenly became pregnant in 1953 and stayed with my thought to be great grandad and nobody has questioned whether my Nan was not my thought to be great grandads child as I assumed she was until this DNA test

I'm really nervous about what to do next in this situation as I'm conflicted about contacting either them two children of my great grandad because of the fact my Nan was convinced while their parents were married and I don't want a negative reaction off them like I'm trying to gain anything financial or make them view their father in a negative way

I'm also extremely cautious on my Nan as she's always lived knowing her dad as the 1922-1985 thought to be great grandad and is against DNA testing technology type stuff and i have a really strong relationship with her and don't want to stir the pot and potentially harm the relationship I have with her that I value heavily and I love her dearly and I wonder if it's even worth the stress for both parties as He's already dead.

What's your thoughts???

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The Common Room / Re: NPE Nightmare!
« on: Thursday 05 October 23 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Hey there feel free to email me at * for more details. I have found out its definitely a grandson through her child called Lydia Collett and Thomas Crane through closer dna matches on the crane line.

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