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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: John Byrne - 'Commitment for penalty and costs'
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 22:58 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Milliepede on Tuesday 12 October 21 15:54 BST (UK)
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confirmation of the 1849 birth year

You can look on Free BMD index for his birth (presuming he was born England/Wales)

Who is he with on the 1851 census age 2?

Thanks Milliepede for your response - 'Shaun J' commented that they found another census for John Byrne on dirty-lane which puts his birth year back to c. 1827, I think this is much more likely to be the John I'm looking for then the other John Byrne born in 1849.

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: John Byrne - 'Commitment for penalty and costs'
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 22:56 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Hillhurst on Tuesday 12 October 21 16:25 BST (UK)
Is this the same John Byrne mentioned in the newspaper below for being "drunk and riotous at Dirty-Lane, Biddulph" ??

15 October 1870
Staffordshire Sentinel and Commercial & General Advertiser

Thanks Hillhurst!

It is indeed.

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: John Byrne - 'Commitment for penalty and costs'
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 22:55 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Tuesday 12 October 21 16:03 BST (UK)
The 1871 census has a John Byrne residing in the huts in Dirty Lane, Biddulph. He's aged 44, from Ireland, with a wife Winifred and 5 children.

Thanks Shaun J - that sounds more like him then the other census I found! That really helps!


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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / John Byrne - 'Commitment for penalty and costs'
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 12:12 BST (UK)  »
I have a document titled 'Commitment for penalty and costs' dated to 1873 for John Byrne of 'Dirty Lane - Biddulph'.

I believe I have found a potential birth year; 1849 (from an 1851 census).

But I cannot find any follow up to this commitment for a drunken offence; I'm not even sure where the original document is stored (my guess is the Staffordshire Record Office).

Ideally I would like to find: confirmation of the 1849 birth year, and some more info surrounding the 1873 commitment for penalty (for a drunken offence) - I'm especially keen to find out whether or not the fine was paid or if he did end up doing the 14 days of hard labour.

Thanks!


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