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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Descendants of John Ebenezer Black
« on: Monday 12 November 12 22:15 GMT (UK)  »
hello again Teddy1

A lot there, you have been very busy. Much of your post is correct
George Black of Lanton was was JEB's brother, both sons of James Black of New Heaton. George married well, Agnes Davidson's family owned the Coldstream brewery, and she was later described as the sole partner. They had no children and she used her wealth to endow Coldstream with a new church.
James R Black was a cousin, son of Ebenezer Black of Grindon.
Another cousin was also called George Black.
Israel Black was the youngest of John and Agnes Black's fifteen children, he died in 1823 aged about 27. His son Israel Craig Black (hopefully born in 1824 rather than 1825!) was therefore a full cousin to the men named above.
It is all quite confusing as the same Christian names are used in each family (except Israel!)
I have emailed you direct asking you to contact a relative of yours who can give more detailed information.
Walton is quite a common name in South Northumberland and over into North Cumbria and Durham. The name almost certainly comes from "Walltown", a settlement on Hadrian's Wall.
Good luck!

David

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Descendants of John Ebenezer Black
« on: Monday 12 November 12 12:04 GMT (UK)  »
HelloTeddy1,

First the easy bit, Ford and Cornhill are neighbouring rural parishes in North Northumberland.
Secondly Black is a very common name in the area, so it is easy to go wrong. You are clearly on the right family, except I have no knowledge of a Carr of Kilmaurs. Almost certainly the Wait that took the lease of the Forge after the Blacks is related to one or both of JEB's wives, very possibly a brother of his second wife.
If there are questions about the family I am happy to share what knowledge I have. A descendent of the family has put a huge amount of material on ancestry.co.uk.

David

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Descendants of John Ebenezer Black
« on: Saturday 20 October 12 19:46 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Minniehaha and Carlolsen,

I have found One Tree Point, out in the Edendale direction, but I guess the name Heaton Farm has gone, 130 acres isn't viable any more. He seems to have got around a bit, his mill was at Winton, he also applied to build a mill at Mataura, but was turned down.  There is a short report on the loss of the mill at http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=GRA18850223.2.9.11&srpos=2&e=-------10--1----0Winton+Flour+Mills-- , I guess being underinsured caused the bankrupcy.
Yes, Arrowtown's history is fascinating, the lure of gold took people to such remote places, Skippers, Bullendale, and Macetown etc. Have had a good look in the Arrow, but haven't managed to find any gold yet ....

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Descendants of John Ebenezer Black
« on: Thursday 18 October 12 15:19 BST (UK)  »
Wow, so much response, so quickly! Where to start!?
The Black family built a large agribusiness here in Northumberland stemmimg from their blacksmith's business which produced tools for agriculture and mining, becoming large scale farmers, millers and grain merchants. JEB was the youngest child of James and Ann Black of New Heaton, Heaton Mill, and Ford Mills and Forge. JEB's first wife was a houseservant which may have incurred his parent's displeasure and caused him to throw up his excellent prospects for a new country. I think his second wife may have been a half-sister to his first. I farm one of the Black's farms and have long had an interest in this fascinating family. JEB's ventures in NZ were not too successful and he was declared bankrupt after his mill burnt down.
We have a daughter living in Arrowtown so I thought it would be interesting to see where JEB settled next time we visit. A google search for One Tree Point only brought up somewhere in Northland.
I replied to shiska18's post "Need help with this photo". With the help of a Black descendant I now think it is possible the photo is of JEB's cousin George Black who ran the Spittal spadeworks. JEB posted his death notice in the Southland Times, so it is reasonable to think that there were people there who had met him.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Descendants of John Ebenezer Black
« on: Wednesday 17 October 12 21:06 BST (UK)  »
I am a student of the Black family of Ford Forge, Northumberland. John Ebenezer Black 1836 to 1900 emigrated to Southland and established a farm he named "Heaton". I would be interested to see where he settled and meet any descendants when next we visit New Zealand.

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Berwick area estates?
« on: Thursday 30 August 12 22:44 BST (UK)  »
The last estate owner at Ord was Lady Osborne of Ord House. Whether there are any records I know not.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Need help with this photo
« on: Thursday 30 August 12 22:11 BST (UK)  »
I can't help with the photo, but I am a student of the Black family! The date is far too late for any of John Ebenezer's uncles, but perhaps a cousin? I have been unable trace his cousin Thomas Black after 1863, who was about the same age. Do you have any info on what made JE throw up his prospects in the family agribusiness to take his chance in the fledgling country?
I assume you have some knowledge of the family history in the UK, but if I can cast any light let me know.

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