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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 19:49 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Tuesday 15 March 22 19:41 GMT (UK)
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I think the shop in Warrington was in the back streets and was a grocers shop

But he was a pawnbroker by 1911 (per census and John junior's baptism)
Yes, he was a pawnbroker but his wife Elizabeth was a grocer in 1911.
Interestingly the Warrington property, 110 Algernon St, is not listed in the 1939, it leaps from 109 to 111?

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 19:01 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: GrahamSimons on Tuesday 15 March 22 17:48 GMT (UK)
If there was nobody in the premises on the night of the census, then nobody would have been recorded there. The census is asking the question, "Who is here this night?" so non-residential premises would have not had a record, and people away from home should have been enumerated where they were at the time.

I think the shop in Warrington was in the back streets and was a grocers shop. I think the family lived over the shop as that is the address on my fathers birth certificate.

The shop in Manchester I am unsure if they lived there over the shop but assume they did as they bought a new 3 bed semi in another part of Manchester for £750 in the late 1930's.
The trouble is I can't find any family with the right names on the 1921 in Manchester, and that's whats confusing me.

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 18:50 GMT (UK)  »

Was Elizabeth Anns surname Daniels  :-\.   Birth registrations don't have middle names for first two children

EVANS, LILY       mmn DANIELS 
GRO Reference: 1907  March Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 238

EVANS, JOHN       mmn DANIELS 
GRO Reference: 1912  March Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 405

EVANS, SIDNEY  THOMAS     mmn DANIELS 
GRO Reference: 1914  Dec Quarter in WARRINGTON  Volume 08C  Page 373
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Yes, those are the correct people.

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 17:28 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Tuesday 15 March 22 17:14 GMT (UK)
The 1929 Directory is on Ancestry. I just searched for "Ashton Old Road" as a keyword.

This link will take you to image 1878 - click on the image, change 1878 to 106 and click on "Go".

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/19294743:3145



Ah, great, thanks.

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 16:53 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Tuesday 15 March 22 16:49 GMT (UK)
1929 Manchester Directory has Evans, Jn, Pawnbroker at 444 and 446 Ashton Old Road

Looking for earlier ones.....
That's the one, can I ask where you are looking at the directory from, I couldn't find any online.
Ancestry only seems to go down to 1933?

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 14:14 GMT (UK)  »
ShaunJ,
The names I am looking for are,
John Evans, GF,  born 1881 in Liverpool
Elizabeth Ann Evans, GM, born 1883 in Warrington
Lilian Mary Evans, Aunt, born 1907 in Warrington
John Francis Evans, Father, born 1911 in Warrington
Sydney Thomas Evans, Uncle, born 1914 in Warrington

Possible places,
110 Algernon St, Warrington
444 & 446 Ashton Old Road, Openshaw, Manchester

I did also try the whole of Lancashire but returned no obvious results.

Thanks

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 13:00 GMT (UK)  »
Didn't cross my mind!
Would someone not call back later?

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 12:54 GMT (UK)  »
I'm looking through Ancestry's content at the moment, I don't have a Findmypast subscription.

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Lancashire / Re: 1921 Census and business addreses
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 12:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I have tried all variant options to click or enter part names I have come across in the past, but no joy.

I find it strange that in the address search the property numbers are missing, but adjacent properties are there.

I have found a kelly's directory for 1933 with my GF name and the address in question.
I have not found any directories for Manchester and Salford going back to 1920's, does anyone know if they exist?

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