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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James Dillon of Co Armagh
« on: Tuesday 21 March 23 12:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Taonga1,

Thanks for your question. Unfortunately I don't think I can help you.

My initial reaction to your question was that I can't see how he could fitted a second wife into what I believed to be his timeline. My James was born about 1824 and he was married in 1849, aged about 25. I believe his parents were Thomas Dillon & Anne Stothers who were married 1823. His first living child was born about 1850-52 (I don't know if there were any miscarriages or infant deaths).

If you refer back to my original post & one of my first replies, you will have most of the additional information I have.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James Dillon of Co Armagh
« on: Sunday 10 October 21 08:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi adhadowey,

Thanks for your reply.  The second part I didn't know about & hadn't considered.  Food for thought.

Regards,

thomas2sam

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James Dillon of Co Armagh
« on: Wednesday 06 October 21 07:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kiltaglassan & adhadowey,

Thanks for your replies.

Kiltaglassan -  thanks for the place name link, it will handy as I am guilty of having skipped some of the background research & reading I need to do.

adhadowey  -  thanks for the links to Martha Dillon/Henry Robinson - she does look like a sister for my James Dillon.  I need to try to find the baptism records (or other records) to check on the mother of both of them.
I did find a copy of the marriage return for James & Jane but lost my source detail so terrific timing.  Yes, I did wonder about Jane's religion but I seem to remember reading something about people of other religions getting married in a Church of Ireland church (or Catholic church) to have their marriages registered.  I hope I remembered correctly!  I did guess she was Methodist as she was buried under the Methodist Rites.

Regards,

thomas2sam

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James Dillon of Co Armagh
« on: Monday 04 October 21 06:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Milliepede, shanreagh & Kiltaglassan,

Thank you for all the replies. I will add some more info where I can.

Originally the assumption was the family had sailed from Ireland to Sydney but I couldn't find passenger list showing them.  Eventually I followed a chat page about another person's ancestor & found a Dillon family that included the parents & most of the children on SS Saldanha that sailed to Brisbane (Qld) in 1863.  I then looked for a ship sailing from Brisbane to Sydney & again found a James & Mrs Dillon with 5 children in a passenger list.  Combined with the sailing dates, I assume these passenger lists do refer to my ancestors.

Samuel, Mary, Margaret, Martha & Ann(ie) were born in Ireland - most likely Co Armagh.  By calculation, Samuel was born 1850-1852, thought more likely to be 1851-1852.  Ancestry has a posting showing he was born 21 Oct 1852 but this date is questionable - he would have been 11 days short of his 53rd birthday - his age as shown on his father's death certificate & based on information credited to him.  From the ages on this death certificate, there was approx 2 years between each of the children.  Plus Elizabeth (Lizzie) was born at sea & 2 daughters, Jane & Sarah, were born when they were farming at Broughton Vale NSW.

Because of the immigration details I found, I guessed they may have travelled from Co Armagh to Greenock under an arrangement with Bain & Co.  I will follow up on links supplied shortly.  The names Nancy & Ann being interchangeable is news - thanks......& yes, I have skipped some of the background reading I should have done!

The Irish naming patterns are very interesting but perhaps not followed by the Dillons?  Jane's parents were Samuel Wilson & Margaret Shannon & James' parents were Thomas Dillon & Nancy/Ann/Anne Stothers(?).  But they did incorporate the names Samuel, Margaret, Ann & Jane among their children's names.  Incidentally Margaret's second name was Jane.

Unfortunately the Church marriage record does not show their religion. However, I can assume the Dillons were Methodists as this was the religion the family subsequently followed.

I did notice the older spellings for Cannagola (Beg/More) & Derryneskan but chose to use the spellings from the marriage record.  Currently I am think the Dillons were from Cannagola Beg because Cannagola More may have had a different name in 1849. Do you know if this is the case?

Do any of you know if the Parish Church Drumcree holds any of their records that may include the Dillon family or have a contact in the church for me to check?  I am after first-hand records where I can.

Again, thank you for your help & for the links for me to check.

thomas2sam

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Family History Beginners Board / James Dillon of Co Armagh
« on: Saturday 02 October 21 09:30 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to research the Irish details of my G-G-grandfather James Dillon & his family.

His death certificate shows James died 10/10/1905 at Parramatta (NSW, Aust.) aged 81 years, his parents as Thomas Dillon & Nancy Stuothers (or is that Stothers?), he was born Armagh, Ireland, aged 25 when he married & that he had been in NSW for 42 years at his death.  The marriage record showed he married Jane Wilson at the Parish Church, Parish of Drumcree 23/10/1849, that James resided in Canagola (sic) & Jane resided in Derryneskin (sic).    James Dillon, Thomas Dillon & Samuel Wilson (Jane's father) were all farmers.  The witnesses were Samual Wilson & John Mercer.

I have seen his birth year shown by some people as 1823 but other details suggest 1823-25.  And his mother has also been shown as Anne Stothers.

I believe James & Jane had five children when they left Ireland & another daughter, Elizabeth, was born at sea.  Two more daughters were born in NSW.

I have a record of a James & Jane Dillon with children Samuel, Mary, Margaret J & Ann E departing Greenock, Scotland 23/5/1863 for Brisbane, Qld, Australia onboard the SS Saldanha as part of an immigration scheme.  Four children were recorded, not five.  Their forth child, Martha, was not listed with the family but there was a Martha Dillon listed separately on the same voyage who may have been the missing child.  The names of these five children match my family.  There was not a reference to Elizabeth, perhaps because she was so young.  I also have a passenger list that suggests the family subsequently traveled from Brisbane to Sydney onboard SS Urara Nov/Dec 1863.

Does anyone have any other information on James Dillon, his family & his life in Ireland?  Does anyone know how & why he when to Greenock, Scotland before travelling to Australia?  Does anyone have any further information on Thomas Dillon, his wife & their ancesters?  What about the birth details of his children Samuel, Mary, Margaret J, Martha & Ann E or the details for Elizabeth who was born at sea?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Thomas2sam

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