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Lancashire / Re: Beechwood, Woolton
« on: Sunday 26 September 21 08:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi

The archdiocese of Liverpool purchased the house in 1929 after Alderman Stanley Mather had died. The first Archbishop to live there was a Dr Downey. I don’t know how long the Roman Catholic Church kept the house but I think a number of successive archbishops live there.

Andy

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Lancashire / Re: Beechwood, Woolton
« on: Saturday 25 September 21 21:33 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for this. I don’t subscribe to old-maps so can’t access a magnified view but maps.nls.uk has some old 25 inch OS maps of Woolton which show what you describe.

I have a couple of old photos of Beechwood but they are both taken from the direction of what is now Acrefield Park. It would be interesting to see some views of the property from other directions,  particularly any from circa 1920, as much of the land surrounding the house has now been developed.

Andy

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Derbyshire / Re: James SMITH born circa 1758
« on: Thursday 23 September 21 23:44 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for the link mckha489 - I have no idea why the licence didn't appear in my search results on Findmypast.  Whilst it doesn't particularly move things forward, it is good to see it.

Andy

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Derbyshire / Re: James SMITH born circa 1758
« on: Thursday 23 September 21 23:27 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the replies.  I did look at the names of the marriage witnesses but none of them proved helpful.  I haven't seen the marriage bond (I couldn't find it on Findmypast) but Wm Maskery isn't a name which seems to lead anywhere.

The best bet for James's baptism seems to me to be in Kedleston, to James and Ann, 25/3/1759.  It's about 11 miles from Rocester and Marston Montgomery, 9 miles from Cubley, but only 3 miles from Brailsford. Family names include Ann, like his daughter.  And the date seems right.  But I can't rule out the several others which seem plausible, so a brick wall it remains...

Thanks again, and any further thoughts very much welcome!

Andy

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Derbyshire / James SMITH born circa 1758
« on: Thursday 23 September 21 17:44 BST (UK)  »
The moment I found out that one of my 3G-grandparents was Ann SMITH I feared it wasn't going to be easy tracing her ancestors.... and so it has proved.

Ann was the daughter of James Smith, born circa 1758, and his wife Sophia (nee Kirkland).  The  1841 census for Cubley gives James's age as 80 which allowing for rounding down is consistent with his death in Cubley in 1844 aged 86. James and Sophia were married in Brailsford in 1783.  I believe Sophia was baptised in Marston Montgomery in 1764, daughter of John Kirkland and Elizabeth (guess what, also nee Smith).

Inevitably there are plenty of James Smith baptisms in Derbyshire around 1758 to choose from.  I have tried all the obvious things such as family naming conventions but none of the possible baptisms really stands out from the others.  I have looked across the border in Staffordshire too.  I should add that having been researching my family history for approaching 30 years I'm fairly confident that I've tried all the obvious things... 

I'm hoping therefore that someone in this forum may have this James Smith in their tree, and has been able to succeed where I have failed, by finding a convincing baptism record - or has some additional information which might help.   Fingers crossed!

Andy

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Lancashire / Re: Beechwood, Woolton
« on: Thursday 23 September 21 08:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the latest responses.  I believe my great aunt was only with the Mathers for a few years - her family was from Burton upon Trent, and she returned there circa 1919. The names in Mr Mather's will aren't known to me I'm afraid.

The information everyone has provided is very much appreciated, I have learned quite a lot about Beechwood and maybe there is more yet to come!

Andy

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Lancashire / Re: Beechwood, Woolton
« on: Wednesday 22 September 21 18:50 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again!  Very helpful information.

Andy

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Lancashire / Re: Beechwood, Woolton
« on: Wednesday 22 September 21 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Br1gau, I'd seen the census but not the other items. Much appreciated.

Andy

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Lancashire / Re: Beechwood, Woolton
« on: Wednesday 22 September 21 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Shaun

Many thanks - I hadn't seen that, so will head off now to find it!

Andy

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