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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« on: Sunday 08 August 21 20:48 BST (UK)  »
 
Quote from: Redroger on Sunday 08 August 21 18:52 BST (UK)
And don't forget "sharpening clog irons on't corsey"
Sharpening clog irons on the pavement (causeway) edge. To watch the sparks fly!. I speak as a Cambridge born southerner who lived the Barnsley side of Doncaster for over 40 years, and served on South Yorkshire County Council where I largely learned the language. Also worked at Doncaster loco depot where we had a large contingent of men after depot closures in the Barnsley area.
By the way Sunday is always referred as 't Sabbath! in the Barnsley area.
After 40+ years southerners say I have a Yorkshire accent, but the locals up there say I have a foreign accent.

Same for me, my family say ive an accent, but in Barnsley I stick out like a sore thumb:)


Strangely, my late Father in Law also worked for the council, but Barnsley council from early 80s and based at the Barnsley depot and prior to that worked in the South Yorkshire Fire Bridge .

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Arthur Acton - Manchester - death of a police officer?
« on: Sunday 08 August 21 18:13 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 08 August 21 17:25 BST (UK)
They do say, don't they "There's nowt so queer as folk"!!  And WM who was sentenced was aged 38.

They certainly do :)

I found the article now that you both referred to. Not sure how I missed that, but now finding it, its giving me some ideas for searching for other links

thanks again

Acko

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« on: Sunday 08 August 21 18:06 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: cockney rebel on Tuesday 06 July 21 16:02 BST (UK)
Gawd!
How is Houghton pronounced then ?
Like How - Tun

or does it more rhyme with "cough" ?

Sorry, it's a southerner here..!
Rebel

Barnsley folk are a little quirky with their accent

Some Placenames

Dodworth = Doderth
Barugh Green = Barr Green
Wombwell = Wumwell
Elsecar = El-se-ca'

Then you can get into the fun non placename ones

Horse = oss or popo's
Pavement Kerb - Corsey Edge
Town = Tarn
Give Over - Gi' ooer
Playing = laiking
Kids = Bairns
Crying = Roaring
 0-0 Nil Nil during a match)= nowt a piece
Spice = Sweets

My wife is from Barnsley, her dads side come from Darfield and myself I'm from Manchester. When I first moved here, I honestly had to have people translate at times as I had no idea....and still at times, when 2 Barnsley blokes are deep in talk, there are words that just completely throw me and Ive been here for 15 years






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The Lighter Side / Re: The worst Ancestry transcription ever?
« on: Sunday 08 August 21 17:27 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Andrew Tarr on Wednesday 23 March 16 23:04 GMT (UK)
Quote from: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 23 March 16 20:18 GMT (UK)
One day soon they will get computers to perform transcribing.  They will probably be more accurate than human transcribers.

They've been trying for a long time with OCR, and that can only handle printed characters with any reasonable hope of success.  Attempts at blurry Victorian newspapers are a joke sometimes, so I don't share your optimism - yet.

Im not sure they still do this, but Royal mail used to employ staff to do data entry for letters that couldnt be recognized by the system in place.

So a member of staff would sit there, get a letter onscreen, type out parts of the address that the system was failing to understand and then hit return. on Special occasions we would get a red box to draw around the address if the system couldnt detect the location of the address.

it was that tedious, I once fell asleep and woke up when i headbutted the monitor

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Arthur Acton - Manchester - death of a police officer?
« on: Sunday 08 August 21 17:21 BST (UK)  »
Wow cheers to both of you, ive been looking for days and found nothing lol even on the British Newspaper Site. maybe I was getting tunnel vision.........hmmm

I just cant get my head around why a rumour like that in the family told by family members..............but i guess families have more locked doors than a bank at times

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Arthur Acton - Manchester - death of a police officer?
« on: Sunday 08 August 21 16:41 BST (UK)  »
Good Afternoon

I'm trying to trace where I would find information regarding a great uncle of mine, who according to family rumours was incarcerated for the death of a police officer in the 1930s in manchester.

I have found 2 sets of seperate information but have not discovered anything yet that actually links the 2.

1st piece
in 1934 PC James Wright was on Traffic duty in manchester and knocked down by car which failed to stop

https://gmpmuseum.co.uk/roh-item/james-wright/

2nd Piece

According to Census records, a man by the name of Arthur Acton was housed at Calderstones Hospital, a a mental asylum at the time in Whalley Lancashire. The DOB of this patient fits my uncles DOB and would explain things like why he married later, and being "away"  from his teens to a little later in his life. Occupation at the time is just incapacitated.

The only thing that could potentially link the two is the rumour stated he was around 15 at the time of the death of the policeman, which again kinda falls into line with the date of 1934.

Ive tried searching the lancashire archives, the british newspapers site but nothing I see mentions James Wright death  or a court case around it and Im a bit stumped.

It seems strange that anyone would make such a story up, even if they were ashamed he was in an Asylum, but then surely I would have found something about it?

any help of pointer would be appreciated

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