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England / Re: Help - Scenic/Theatre Artists in 1840's
« on: Saturday 17 July 21 14:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Wm and Jane are my GG grandparents, their son Richard Brinsley is my G grandfather, his son Charles Melbourne my grandfather, his daughter Margaret my mother.
Interesting reading all of these threads.

It seems William and Jane were never married, in his will and hers and her probate, she is referred to as Jane Dixon|Huggon. We, all relatives that have done research believe they were never married, no evidence and confirmation in wills etc.
William was also an artist of many scenes in and around the Dandenong and has had paintings catalogued in Melbourne. His son Richard before going to Queensland was also an artist and went to the Victorian Arts in Melbourne late 1800s.
Williams brother Thomas wasn’t as successful as William or his son William.

Thomas went the gold mines up near Ballarat to Clunes.
He died 29th October 1869 as a result of an accident, he was thrown from a sulky, he managed to get back to his residence, McCullullochs Tourello Hotel, went to bed and was found dead in his bed the next morning by the hotel owner, an inquest was held on his death and was found to have died of apoplexy.
He was buried at Clunes cemetery in an area where strangers were buried with others in a paupers grave.
His brother William declined to claim his body, why I don’t know as he was an influential person as his son was in Melbourne.
This is refered to in the coroner’s report on Thomas’ death.
William as you know was a licensee in many hotels and theatres in Melbourne.

I have original pics of William Snr including Jane, and their 3 surviving sons, William, Richard and Charles and some of William Pitt jnr architect and his surviving children, Elizabeth Collingwood, Gladys Jessie, Vera Jane, Stanley Melbourne and William Gordon.
Where do you fit into the Pitt family?




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Hi Apfin,

Sorry the link no longer works, Yendis would be the person you would need to contact, as I was just browsing on her behalf to thank her for her kind help with my research, and as this was five years ago and not my line of reseRch I have no notes to refer back to.

Good luck in your search and sorry that I can't help.

Kind regards, Jo
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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Saturday 17 July 21 11:28 BST (UK)  »
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179191971/thomas-pitt



quote author=ttip link=topic=850926.msg7186791#msg7186791 date=1626517642]
Yes it was
I have had a plaque made and installed at Clunes cemetery memorial wall


quote author=maddys52 link=topic=850926.msg7186774#msg7186774 date=1626515789]
Article from The Herald 1 Nov 1869 about Thomas PITT ("old Pitt the painter")
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article244912233

What a sad ending.
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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Saturday 17 July 21 11:27 BST (UK)  »
Yes it was
I have had a plaque made and installed at Clunes cemetery memorial wall


quote author=maddys52 link=topic=850926.msg7186774#msg7186774 date=1626515789]
Article from The Herald 1 Nov 1869 about Thomas PITT ("old Pitt the painter")
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article244912233

What a sad ending.
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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Saturday 17 July 21 07:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Casey
It seems William and Jane were never married, in his will, he refers to Jane Dixon|Huggon.
William was also an artist of many paintings catalogued in Melbourne.
His brother Thomas wasn’t as successful as William and his son William.
Thomas went the gold mines up near Ballarat to Clunes.
He died 39th October 1869 as a result of an accident, he was thrown from a sulky, managed to get back to his residence, McCullullochs Tourello Hotel, went to bed and was found dead in his bed the next morning by the hotel owner, an inquest was held on his death and was found to have died of apoplexy.
He was buried at Clunes cemetery in an area where strangers were buried with others in a paupers grave.
His brother William declined to claim his body, why I don’t know as he was an influential person as his son was in Melbourne.
William Pitt is my GG Grandfather, Thomas GG uncle.
I have original pics of them all including Jane, and their 3 surviving sons, William, Richard and Charles.








So, it seems many people have tried, without success, to find this family in the UK over many years.
If William was doing so well in the theatre business in England, why leave to go to Australia?
It makes one think, they he did not want to be found. Maybe the name wasn’t Pitt at all. I wonder if they were running way from the husband of Jane Huggon, or some other kind of trouble.

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Durham / Re: Pitt brothers William and Thomas
« on: Saturday 17 July 21 06:57 BST (UK)  »

Hi Casey
It seems William and Jane were never married, in his will, he refers to Jane Dixon|Huggon.
William was also an artist of many paintings catalogued in Melbourne.
His brother Thomas wasn’t as successful as William and his son William.
Thomas went the gold mines up near Ballarat to Clunes.
He died 39th October 1869 as a result of an accident, he was thrown from a sulky, managed to get back to his residence, McCullullochs Tourello Hotel, went to bed and was found dead in his bed the next morning by the hotel owner, an inquest was held on his death and was found to have died of apoplexy.
He was buried at Clunes cemetery in an area where strangers were buried with others in a paupers grave.
His brother William declined to claim his body, why I don’t know as he was an influential person as his son was in Melbourne.
William Pitt is my GG Grandfather, Thomas GG uncle.
I have original pics of them all including Jane, and their 3 surviving sons, William, Richard and Charles.








Hi Casey, This 1841 census looks promising for William, but no Thomas evident.
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5905d4a9e9379091b1907291/william-pitt-1841-warwickshire-birmingham-1819-?locale=en
That same family in the next census

1851 census Birmingham (St Paul)
William Pitt, Head 64 born Birmingham, widower, gent formerly Japanner
Peter Pitt 33, born Birmingham Japanner
William Pitt 32 born Birmingham artist
Janett Pitt 26 daughter in law
Ann Shuker 16 servant

Possible wife for William Pitt senior is Elizabeth Grove – marriage 13 Sep 1816 Birmingham. He was a widower on this marriage, she was a spinster; both bride and groom of St Martin Parish Birmingham

There is a baptism for their son William 30 Dec 1818 St Phillip Birmingham (born 9 Dec 1818)

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England / Re: Help - Scenic/Theatre Artists in 1840's
« on: Friday 16 July 21 12:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi
William Pitt and Jane/Dixon/Huggon are my great great grandparents.
They arrived in Australia in 1853 on the ship Birman with Williams brother Thomas.
Their son Richard Brinsley is my great grandfather, his son Charles Melbourne is my grandfather, his daughter is my mother.
Regards
Greg

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