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Australia / Re: Parkhurst boy William Litton
« on: Tuesday 31 December 24 14:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Shume

There was no convict ship called the Acme, and no William Lawton who was transported after 1843, so I think it is a fair chance it's him.
I absolutely agree it's not certain, but I think it's quite likely.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Finding a record of criminal trial - Westminster City General Sessions
« on: Tuesday 31 December 24 04:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I've spent the last few years researching the Thomas Arbuthnot exiles. I know a bit about Thomas Carr.
I don't think Thomas Carr the exile is the same as your Thomas Carr, to be honest.  I think he's been mixed up a few times.
Thomas Carr left the Thomas Arbuthnot with work as a groom for Major Newman in Geelong. From there he seems to have headed up to Ballarat, probably looking for gold.
Thomas Carr the exile was convicted of robbery in 1858 in Victoria. At the time, he was in Ballarat and gave the name "William Jones". His prison record shows he was born in Lancashire, which may or may not be true. He said at the time that he had no relatives in the Colony. He wasn't released until 1864.
That doesn't seem to fit with your Thomas Carr.
Thomas Carr the exile seems to have suffered from a fairly severe mental illness later in life, claiming to be a wizard at times. He was sometimes referred to as "the Wizard of the South". He lived around Wangaratta in the 1860s.
As far as I can work out, he died at the Alfred Hospital in Prahran in 1884.

Kind regards
Jill Brewer

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Australia / Re: Parkhurst boy William Litton
« on: Tuesday 31 December 24 04:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Veronica

William Litton was born in Middlesex in 1829, the son of Phillip Litton and Ann Parker. He had siblings Harriet, John and Mary Ann.
Phillip Litton was a bricklayer and in 1851 the family were living in Park Place.
When the Thomas Arbuthnot landed, William is recorded as having employment as a bricklayer in Melbourne.
William's sister, Mary Ann married Henry Josiah Stapp in 1862 and in 1864 they came to Victoria, aboard the Montrose.
There is a record of a "William Lawton" in hospital in Mudgee in 1889 - I think that is very likely William Litton.
I hope that helps with your research.
Kind regards
Jill Brewer

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Australia / Re: George WESTLEY Exile Convict to Australia on the Thomas Arbuthnot 1847
« on: Monday 30 December 24 06:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lyn
That all makes sense!
David Coghill employed a lot of exiles from various ships, including the Thomas Arbuthnot.
All the best with your research.
As I mentioned, I am working my way through the Thomas Arbuthnot exiles, and I will let you know if I find anything about George's life.
Kind regards
Jill Brewer

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Australia / Re: George WESTLEY Exile Convict to Australia on the Thomas Arbuthnot 1847
« on: Saturday 21 December 24 06:33 GMT (UK)  »
George's surname was most likely Wesley, rather than Westley. Westley will be the name he was charged under. It may be because the person recording the charge misheard the name, or because he and his brother mispronounced it. Once a name was recorded in the justice system, that name stuck for the entirety of his incarceration and the voyage out, even after the authorities knew it was incorrect. 
The Pentonville prison register shows his father as Benjamin Wesley.  He was baptised George Wesley in Sawley, Derbyshire in 1822, the son of Benjamin Wesley and Ann Willmot.
In addition to John, brother Samuel was also transported to VDL. He died at Oatlands in 1847.
His brother John advertised in the Argus in October 1855, asking George to contact him and mentions that in 1851, George was employed by a Mr Coagle of Glendernel Run, Burn Bank.
It looks like he was a cook at Moore's Hotel in Horsham in 1864 and was stabbed in the arm by a John Murphy, almost fatally.
I haven't found a record of him after that. It is possible he returned to England
I've followed most of the exiles from the Thomas Arbuthnot from birth to death, but haven't done George yet. When I do, I'm happy to let you know what I've found.

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Moray (Elginshire) / Re: George Ellems/Ellims
« on: Wednesday 22 February 23 01:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hello
It's quite a long time since this discussion, but I wanted to let you know that there is a letter at the Public Records Office Victoria in Melbourne from George Ellis to the Colonial Secretary dated 26 December 1847, asking for assistance to bring his wife and children over from Scotland.
He gives his wife's name as Isabella Forsyth and lists their four daughters.  He was living in Geelong at the time.
Hope that helps with your research
Jill B

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Australia / Re: Victoria: Robert CREEK(E), Born 1828, Cambridge Borough, Cambridgeshire
« on: Friday 02 July 21 06:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi
By sheer coincidence I started researching Robert Creeke this week.

Fanny was his cousin, so far as I can tell.

It is correct they had no children.

Good luck.

Jill

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