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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Allen St Sheffield
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 16:03 BST (UK)  »

Smithfield is a short distance to the NE, off Allen Street.  This is the georeferenced version:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.0&lat=53.38619&lon=-1.47658&layers=173&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

Thanks for your reply. I was hoping 159 Allen Steet was the same as 4 or 9 Smithfields! I have discovered a photo in a book with my grandparents outside 4 and 9 Smithfields and have found a family with the same surname at 159 Upper Allen Street. I never knew they lived in the area so I’m trying to work out if it’s an address I didn’t know about or if they were visitors on the day of the photo!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Allen St Sheffield
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 16:00 BST (UK)  »

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Allen St Sheffield
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 15:59 BST (UK)  »
1935 map here:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/125651206#zoom=6.7&lat=7078&lon=15432&layers=BT

Not sure how the street numbering goes, but would 159 be on Upper Allen St? On the 1901 census the enumerator's route seems to go ... 157, 159 Allen ST, Brocco St ...
RG13/4365/25

Thanks I’ll have a look at the census

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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Re: Software opinions
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 15:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I plan to use a MacBook. I was hoping there is something that eg creates a person profile where I can input information and hopefully would cross reference the info eg identify family members who over the generations lived on the same street, and something I could upload photos and maps to … and easy to use!! Thanks again

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Family History Beginners Board / Allen St Sheffield
« on: Monday 16 June 25 00:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I’m trying to locate a map of Allen Street, Sheffield. May have formally been called Smithfield’s ? I’m interested in late 1930s and 159 Allen street in particular. I’m confused as not sure if they are/were the same street and where 159 would be located. Thanks in advance!

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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Software opinions
« on: Sunday 15 June 25 23:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi what is the best software for a Mac book? I would like something that cross references and is idiot proof, easy to use. Thanks in advance

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The Common Room / Re: Smithfields, Sheffield 1932
« on: Saturday 24 May 25 10:32 BST (UK)  »
I think the man in the door way is my dad’s uncle and his first wife. Thanks again. I’ll sign up to ancestry to look at the census see if it yields anything.

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The Common Room / Re: Smithfields, Sheffield 1932
« on: Saturday 24 May 25 08:53 BST (UK)  »
I have a copy of the 1939 Kelly's directory for Sheffield and Rotherham. The only listings for Smithfields are manufacturers - small businesses all involved in production of steel items.So it looks as though the resident population had been rehoused by 1939.

Thanks. Is the Kelly’s Directory available online?

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The Common Room / Re: Smithfields, Sheffield 1932
« on: Saturday 24 May 25 08:52 BST (UK)  »
I imagine that if you are interested in dates after 1921 then it might be difficult — electoral registers as mentioned in reply #3?

The image below is Smithfield in White's Directory of 1919. This only gives details of businesses, but it indicates that Smithfield was organised into courts, so an address like "4 Smithfield" will relate to several households. Here are links to two large scale maps from 1889 (Smithfield is split across them) to show where the individual courts were – perhaps you already have this information, but it will flesh out this thread for any future readers.

OS Town Plans 1889
[Covered entrances or alleyways to courts are denoted by crossed lines.]
—lower section of Smithfield
https://maps.nls.uk/view/231282486#zoom=4.8&lat=9996&lon=13294&layers=BT
Courts 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13 (part) all on the west side below Cross Smithfield.
 Courts 2, 4, 6 (part) on the east side.

—upper section of Smithfield
https://maps.nls.uk/view/231282471#zoom=5.3&lat=1786&lon=12744&layers=BT
Court 13 (part including entrance) on the west side.
Courts 6 (part) and 8 on the east side. Court 6 looks to be particularly complicated.

Going back to the first photo linked by MollyC in reply #7, the notes say that it is taken from near the entrance to Court 5, and that Court 9 "on the left has been demolished." Incidentally I discovered that if you click on Zoom above the image you get a higher resolution image (the basis of the 'magnify' function.

This is great. Thanks. I have a more precise idea of which court yards to look at. I’m trying to solve a family mystery which is why I’m trying to track my grandmother and especially her grandmother! You mentioned Whites - is it available online? Or is it a case of visiting Sheffield to go to the archives??

Thanks again

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