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Hi there,

Thanks! This is great. Pleased to hear you are compiling a one place study of Little Somerford. I'd love to see the rest of the research you find - where is it being compiled? My family and I made a trip out there and have some photos that could be of interest to you such as graves, the Volunteer Inn that the Barnes family ran for years, the house Harry Barnes lived in etc.

I have also found a lot of this info since and put it on our family tree on Ancestry (under 'Patenall family tree'). Seems like you have most of it.

You can also add to your research that he also fathered an illegitimate child (my grandfather) with Edna Louise King, who lived in Mortimer where he was stationed in the Canadian Forestry Corps at Upton. His son was called Harry Thomas Barnes-Hunt. Harry Barnes went back to Canada six months before his birth so whether he knew about him or not is a mystery. My grandfather never talked about his father but he used to receive official letters in the post with the surname 'Barnes-Hunt' which my mother was curious about. Ancestry DNA test led us to Harry Barnes!

Would love to find a photo of him so if you ever find one, do let me know.

Thanks so much again for this info.

Seen this occupation on the 1851 census, it says [something] pilot. In Portsmouth UK.

Can anyone decipher?

Thank you!

Hello,

I am a descendant of German pork butcher William Hees (Johann Karl Wilhelm Hees) son of Daniel Hees and Anne Maria Mueller. I already have quite a lot of info on him courtesy of other RC members but welcome any more about him and to fill in the gaps. Also interested to learn more generally about German Butchers in the Black Country, Bauer casings, internment camps etc.

Happy to provide info to anyone else researching Hees!

Some info on him:

Born in 1867 Bopfingen Germany, parents Daniel Hees and Anna Maria Mueller
He lived in poverty, his early family life was filled with hardship
Moved to Bad Mergentheim in 1851
Confirmed in protestant church in Bad Mergentheim
Emigrated to Birmingham in 1895, worked in a sausage factory
Married Catherine Goodman in 1899 in Birmingham (She was an Irish catholic from Whitechapel)
Worked at Bauer Casings in Wolverhampton 1899 onwards
Interned during WW2 at Surrey first followed by Knockaloe, Isle of Man
Separated from wife sometime between then and 1948, his death in Wolverhampton aged 82.

I was also in touch with the Knockaloe internment camp archive who was very helpful and said she will look out for any information. It's worth doing if you are connected to this camp through your German ancestor. Here is the latest email she sent me:

"Living so close together in wooden huts within in a compound surrounded by barbed wire was an extremely difficult experience for most of the men, particularly those men with families at home, and we explore the impact of life in internment at all of the camps on the internees and their families in detail at the Visitors Centre and it is here that we collate the records on every internee held at any Camp in the British Isles. We have information shared with us all of the time relating to well over 40,000 men who were interned in the British Isles, so we shall look out for anything we can find specifically relating to William during his time in internment at Knockaloe and the other camps.
 
Although there is no photograph or other information specifically referenced to William that I can see as yet, now that we have completed this stage of research and as we progress we shall start to drill down into the more detailed information as we get it collated over the coming months and years. Your completed GDPR signatures allow us to contact you as anything becomes referenced as directly relevant to him."

Ah yes true.

Her marriage cert says he was a gas fitter (James Goodman). There is another record for a Catherine in 1891 at 5 Crossland Sq Bethnal Green with James Goodman father, a widowed bell hanger who was born in St Olaves. Apparently bell hangers and gas fitter was a crossover occupation so I thought this could be him, but not sure! It also has sister Mary Ann on it, aged 15 born at St Georges in the East.
 
But on the '81 census it has them living with the mother who has also put widowed. It's very confusing.

Quote from: heywood on Sunday 24 July 22 23:24 BST (UK)

There is this death
Decembe4 1876 Whitechapel
James Goodman 37 yrs

I don't think this helps much but...

Burial
name: James Goodman
buried: 20 Dec 1876; City of London Cemetery, Little Ilford
age: 37 years
residence: London Hospital
death district: Whitechapel Church?, Middlesex
parish: St Mary
no: 139502

https://col-burialregisters.uk/archive/burial-registers-january-1870-to-december-1879/register-028/1073016

This is interesting, thanks. Catherine who married in 1899 had put him as deceased on her marriage cert.

I had suspected this might have been him in the 1911 census:

Name   James Goodman
Age in 1911   67
Estimated Birth Year   1844
Relation to Head   Inmate
Gender   Male
Birth Place   Whitechapel
Civil parish   Mile End Old Town
Country   England
Street Address   Whitechapel Union Workhouse, South Grove Bow E
Marital Status   Widowed
Occupation   Formerly Dock Labourer
Registration District Number   21
Sub-registration district   Mile End Old Town North Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel   34-37
Piece   1650