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Unwanted Birth, Marriage, Death Certs T to Z / Re: THOMAS, Thomas 1842 Aberystwyth, Cards birth
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 08:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Osprey,

I suspect he might be part of my Thomas Family. My ancestor is David Lloyd Thomas b1848.

only took me 5 years to notice this - with Thomas and Jones as surnames my Welsh tree has been sitting in the too hard basket. It will take DNA matches to unravel it all.

regards
Fiona

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Bedfordshire / Re: The GREEN family of Bedfordshire
« on: Saturday 01 January 22 03:45 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Benjamin Green on Monday 25 October 21 08:43 BST (UK)
I too am a descended from Benjamin Green.

He arrived with his son, William Green (who I am also descended from), and other family in Adelaide, South Australia. They were aboard the ship named "Mariner".

Are you living in Adelaide?

Hi - I am descended from William via his son George Worden Green. I am part of the rogue branch that stayed in Victoria after the family went back to Adelaide, so I am in Melbourne. Have been over to Adelaide several times in recent years and visited the cemetery in Hindmarsh.

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Staffordshire / Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« on: Saturday 26 June 21 04:05 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the welcome, the shipping info is very interesting, and probably is my Arthur. I never thought to look further afield as I had no proof he did anything other than local work til now.
The Lisbonese crew list does point to long hall trips so I guess he was away a lot. Ironically, after his death Hannah remarried, had 4 more kids and they emigrated to Australia ~1912. I wonder if tales of Aus put the idea in Hannah's head.

Still, Wolverhampton, but no trace in Staffs for now. :(




Quote from: jonw65 on Friday 25 June 21 21:37 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat.
For general info
Marriage 30 March 1896 in Liverpool
Arthur was 34, Sailmaker, residence 34 Strand Street
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L93N-X9KQ-N

Baptism of daughter Elizabeth Maud, 22 Oct 1900
Abode Denison St. Arthur still a Sailmaker
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YL-GQDP-F

The Liverpool crew list may be the Lisbonense in 1901
A Marsden, 40, born W'hampton, home address 41 Denison St. Last ship Bernard. Capacity AB.

You would think his occupation would help.
Another crew list on Ancestry. NSW Unassisted
"River Falloch", arriving Sydney in April 1895, from Liverpool
Arthur Marsden, Station Sails, 33, of what nation America

Could it be him? :-\

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Staffordshire / Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« on: Saturday 26 June 21 03:59 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ColC on Friday 25 June 21 17:33 BST (UK)
No GRO index for Arthur in Staffordshire but many elsewhere.

Colin

Hi Colin, yes this is the disheartening bit, all the lancs and yorks (and beyond) records on the GRO I have pretty much eliminated as possibilities. I'm wondering if he was illegitimate registered under mothers name and perhaps assumed paternal name later on, but how to find out?

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Staffordshire / Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« on: Saturday 26 June 21 03:55 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BumbleB on Friday 25 June 21 16:50 BST (UK)
I notice that the 1896 marriage was by Licence.  Have you attempted to track down the Bond and/or Allegation associated with this?  They may or may not be helpful.  :-\

Oh, no I haven't, but thankyou it might be worth checking :)

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Bedfordshire / The GREEN family of Bedfordshire
« on: Friday 25 June 21 12:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I am descended from Benjamin Green b Thurleigh 1810, who emigrated to Australia with his family in 1847. He had a brother William who emigrated to the US, and one (maybe 2?) brothers and some sisters who stayed in Bedfordshire. Their parents were Richard and Mary.

A lot of the tree is documented in 'A Green Tree' which I have seen mentioned in other threads and I was lucky enough to be given a copy 20 years ago.

I would like to contact other members of the tree-  I'm sure there is much to know of our family beyond this document.

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Staffordshire / The mysterious Mr Marsden
« on: Friday 25 June 21 11:40 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I'm posting to try and progress one of my ancestral dead ends.

Arthur MARSDEN b.1861 possibly Wolverhampton
I had a genealogist attempt to find him 20 years ago but found nothing then.
I have never found a birth record, census, or any record for that matter, for him prior to his marriage record to Hannah THOMAS in Liverpool in 1896.
Arthur was listed as a sailmaker, but at the time of his death (1902 Liverpool), a mariner, working on ships out of Liverpool (he drowned in the Mersey).
His marriage and death cert seem to verify the birth year.
On the marriage cert, his father is listed as John Marsden (deceased) - Railway foreman.
They had one child, Elizabeth, b.1900 Liverpool.

You may be wondering why I am posting on the Staffs page? - well, after many attempts at finding ships crew lists for him, one has appeared recently on Ancestry.
It is for 1901 (probably explains why he is missing from the 1901 census), and lists his place of birth as W'hampton.  I am hoping this means Wolverhampton, although I still cannot find any other records to collaborate this.

There aren't many Marsdens in that area so I am hoping someone might be able to help -  I really don't know how to move forward with this new information.

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