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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 11:28 GMT (UK)  »
I know very little. I have the military pension files, Margaret and Patrick's probable marriage registration and James's possible (but 10 years earlier) birth registration, and a probable sighting of Margaret, James and a younger brother Patrick in the 1911 census. And James's death registration in 1916 giving his age as 17, and Margaret's death registration in 1936 in her 80s.

As I read the registrar's statement, Elizabeth Moulds was a neighbour of Bridget Morgan's and went down to register Margaret's death; later, the registrar corrected the forename from Margaret to Martha. My guess - and it's only a guess - about this is that the registrar had records available to him that caused him to correct Margaret to Martha.

I don't know what St Michael's, Eglinton Road, was - that was Margaret's residence at the time of her marriage - but wonder if it might have been an orphanage or convent. But I can't find any such place in Thom's or the censuses.

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 10:17 GMT (UK)  »
That's right, and death certs can be uninformed at times. But it has the correct address for where they were living.
Transcription of the registrar's declaration on the death registration: "In No 3554(3) for Margaret Byrne read Martha Byrne corrected by me on 8.12.36 in regard as of registrar on production of statutory declaration made by Elizabeth Moulds first sent at death, MOS"
If you look across to the listing it reads:
355, 1936 29th November, 36 Clarendon Street, Margaret Byrne, Female, widow, 81 years, nil (under "Occupation"), acute cardiac failure 7 days senility certified, B Morgan (who took charge of the body) 57 South Richmond Street under "informant"), First December 1936 (under "when registered", M O'Sullivan (under "signature of registrar").

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 09:26 GMT (UK)  »
I think Martha was probably her proper name. The place it appears is in a correction by the registrar on her death registration (attached).

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 08:06 GMT (UK)  »
Look at http://mspcsearch.militaryarchives.ie/search.aspx?formtype=advanced for James Byrne and you'll find the lad I'm looking for; the military pension is for his bereaved mother. This is the James Byrne aged 17 killed in 1916. The "dull-witted" descriptions are from that scanty pension application. The Margaret (corrected by registrar to Martha) Byrne in the death registration I posted is that James's mother.

I'm inclined to think that the Edmondstown family is a different one; Margaret/Martha Byrne, mother of James, who died in 1916, was 81 when she died in 1936.

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 07:51 GMT (UK)  »
I haven't found Patrick's death either. Drat them with their common names! And if only the Civil Records site had a street address field!

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 06:37 GMT (UK)  »
Unless they forgot to register a birth, it looks as if the James born in 1888 is our James - how strange that his age should have been stated as ten years less!

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Saturday 22 March 25 21:14 GMT (UK)  »
Maybe not, but our Margaret/Martha Byrne definitely lived in Clarendon Street, at various numbers in the 30s - 33, 34, 36, as a widow, so it'd be a bit of a coincidence if the 33 Clarendon Street address for a husband wasn't correct.

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Saturday 22 March 25 20:51 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if this could be the family in the 1901 census: https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Whitechurch/Ballyboden/1291307/ The ages don't chime, though…
Was checking using this handy census map https://www.dublinhistoricmaps.ie/boundaries/1901-1911-census-divisions/index.html

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Dublin / Re: James Byrne and his mother Margaret
« on: Saturday 22 March 25 20:42 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, it does look like the right parents!
I don't know if the 10 children is correct… it seems to be crossed out and re-entered. But no, I think our Jim would be 10 years later. I wonder what happened to his brother - there's no sign of him later.
(Of course, it was quite possible in those days to have 10 children and have only two survive, for instance though the actions of Rhesus negative.)

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