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Slow progress here..

The William Mumford we're currently looking is the same one featured in the Leamington Spa Courier - 6th April 1844, confirming he had been a farmer at Park Corner "for some years, at the rent of £80".

Park Corner is just south of Temple Balsall, likely where Park Corner Nurseries, Temple Ln, Solihull B93 0AW is now. Likely called 'Park Corner' as it once was the corner of the 'Park' owned by Chadwick Manor.

Distance between Park Corner and Meer End is roughly 3.7 miles (where W Mumford and J Lowe were living in the 1851 census) - remembering the marriage was in 1850.

Update

I've found Park Corner, parish of Balsall, in the 1861 census, there's a William Mumford, wife Mary, born Edgbaston, birth year around 1794, farmer of 25 acres. Working it back, William and his family are also living in Balsall in the 1841/1851 census.

Confirmed children are
Elizabeth b. 1824
Sarah b. 1829
William b. 1831
Charlotte b. 1834
Henry b. 1836

If we take Ciderdrinker's information we may be able to say marriage is to Mary Fardoe 1815, we can probably add Mary b. 1815 and Thomas b. 1818. Not sure how they were able to connect those two extra baptisms.

William's wife Mary has a birthplace of Tanworth, which aligns with daughter Mary's birth in 1815.

William dies March 1878 his wife Mary dies March 1867.

Not found William or Mary's parents yet. Still shaky on confirming they're Ann's parents but is a solid guess I suppose.

Hi Milliepede,

His son William Joseph Lowe was baptised 21 May 1914, birthplace Coleshill. (1914, Jul-Aug-Sep, Meriden Warwickshire, Eden, 6d, 1274)

His son George Arthur Smith was baptised 19 Jun 1916, birthplace Bentley. (1916, Jul-Aug-Sep, Atherstone Warwickshire, Eden, 6d, 1181)

So sometime between these two dates, he never went back to using Dennis Levi Lowe. I have searched the newspapers on various occasions with little luck. He enlisted for WW1 21st May 1917 and was transferred to the reserve in 1919.

Perhaps something happened in Coleshill/Castle Bromwich but this does not explain his absence from the 1911 census.

Only one verifiable trip to jail, in 1926 for an assault on William Andrew Bartlam and his wife. Sentenced to one month hard labour in Atherstone gaol. We have long suspected more..

Kind regards,
Zak

Ok, so here’s what I have..

Edward & Ann
Edward Moore (b. 1837) marries Ann Moore (b.1835) in 1865 in Leamington Priors. A news article in 1932 (Stratford Herald) states that Edward and Ann were cousins.

All census birthplace data for Edward Moore lists Rowington, birth year 1837/38. There’s a baptism in Rowington 27 Aug 1837, father Thomas, mother Elizabeth. Edward is living with his parents in Rowington in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 censuses.

All census birthplace data for Ann Moore lists Preston Bagot, birth year 1835/36. There’s a baptism for Ann March 1835 in Preston Bagot, father Charles, mother Sarah. The Stratford Herald interview in 1930 confirms her father was Charles and she was living with a Charles and Sarah in the 1841 census. Her father’s estimated birth year is 1791, mother’s 1811.

Ann’s parents - Charles & Sarah
There’s a baptism for a Charles Moore in Preston Bagot 17 Nov 1786, father John, mother Martha. willsy’s post reveals John’s will that mentions children Charles and Thomas. Charle’s dies 1850, burial Beaudesert.

The only marriage I have has been mentioned, March 1827 Aston, “Sarah Bradeley”. I know nothing about Sarah, other than her estimated birth year, father unknown, mother unknown. Sarah dies 1842, burial Preston Bagot.

Edward’s parents - Thomas & Elizabeth
This is where it gets interesting. When Edward is living with his parents, his father’s estimated birth year is 1811, mother’s 1812/13. Father’s birthplace is Rowington on all censuses. Mother’s is Shrewley or Hatton. There’s a baptism 16 Aug 1812 in Hatton for a “Elizabeth Joyner”, father Thomas Joyner, mother Mary Halford. There’s no marriage record that I could find, but this is what has been in my tree for years. I couldn’t find a baptism in Rowington for Thomas either, nearest I got was a baptism 24 Apr 1810 in Knowle (6 miles away), parent’s Edward and Sarah (Chadborne).

However, Charles had a brother Thomas baptised 11 Jun 1782 Preston Bagot. (There was another Thomas born 1781 but died in infancy). Married an Elizabeth Anchor in 1807 – so there’s an actual marriage cert available here. Children born of this Thomas would make then cousins with Ann. Elizabeth’s age gives a birth around 1791, so would be 46 if Edward is her son. I can’t find a baptism for Edward. They are also living in Preston Bagot not Rowington. Thomas dies 1848, Elizabeth in 1842.

Children I did find:

• Eliza 1815
• Thomas 1817
• Martha 1819
• Sarah 1821
• Sophia 1826
• William 1828

Nothing really matches up with this one, other than the cousin link, so I’m wary of this one.

So really none the wiser I think, although for certain we can say Edward’s parents were a Thomas and Elizabeth and for Ann, her parents were Charles and Sarah. For Charles as well, I’d be happy to say his parents were John and Martha.

Had a look at Thomas, Edward's father; from the births and checking GRO, MMN Joyner, have found


Thomas Moore married Elizabeth Joyner 20 Jul 1835 St. Martin, Birmingham
mar wits. Robert Powell, Elizabeth Joyner

1841 in Rowington

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01trj/

and a couple of doors above is a Sarah Moore, age 60 wid. crossed out in occupation col., with another Edward Moore; might be worth looking at this Moore family too.

Hi willsy

Joyner is what I have for Edward too - I have a baptism for Elizabeth Joyner 16 Aug 1812 in Hatton. Census records indicate she was born in Shrewley. Parents are Thomas Joyner and Mary Halford (I haven't looked into these yet).

Sarah Moore would be Thomas' mum. MMN Chadbourne (or similar as mentioned below)

Awesome work BushInn.. I hadn't got as far back as Thomas M of the 1700s, I can see a marriage at Rowington for Thomas Moore and Elizabeth Lewis (of Lapworth) in 1763. Inflation calculator says £600 in 1805 is around £44,000 in today's money!

Hi everyone thanks for your thoughts so far

I have the same information as Mabel for the last two children

I am a descendant of Ann Moore (b. 1835), she lived until 1932 and was once the oldest person in Henley in Arden. The Stratford Herald interviewed her in 1930: https://www.stratford-herald.com/whats-on/history-the-day-henley-s-oldest-resident-saw-a-man-wanted-9349680/

In the article it states:

"Her father was in his 50s by the time she was born, and although she only mentioned her mother dying when she was young, and that she was orphaned at six, it seems that her father actually died when she was 15."

So this corelates nicely with 1842 burial of Sarah.

If it's helpful the article also mentions:

"Ann Moore was born at Preston Bagot on 6 March 1835; her father Charles worked at Manor Farm as an agricultural labourer. She was one of at least 11 children, not all of whom survived, and by the time she was six, she said she had been orphaned. Ann was then informally adopted by family friends who ran the White Horse Inn in Henley. She started work from a young age as a servant, waiting on the coaches that pulled up at the inn."