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Armagh / Re: HUGHES from Annahaia, Killevy
« on: Friday 30 May 25 19:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nelyducks
I would really love to have that list of Hughes from Killeavy church.
I went to the old church last week and did find a "Hughes" grave but no individual names.
I believe my Hughes family were on Keggall farm/townland which is about a 40 minute walk from the old church. It is a beautiful place with the farm looking out over the Camlough (Camloch) stretch of water.

I have a Thomas Hughes (around 1775 - 1839) married to a Mary Larkin and also possibly a brother James Hughes.

I have lots of DNA matches for this family and have worked out where many of the descendents ended up - a large number of Thomas and Mary's children went to Canada and then on to the US.
My ancestor moved to Newry and became a merchant. If you have DNA we could take a look and see if there are any matches.

I realise the dates you have might be later but I am interested in knowing who was in Keggall after them.

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Funny you should suggest this. I have actually made that connection myself. I do have two DNA connections to one of the sisters in this family Jane Chambers so I am fairly sure that this is the correct marriage.

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Through DNA I have managed to find one other sibling for Susan - Mary. There is a group of 5 DNA matches that all match each other that relate to Susan, Sarah and  Mary. So it is pretty conclusive.   Mary Harris b1801 married George Langley in St Pancras. Sadly this family were in and out of the workhouse. George was a tailor. He died in St Olave's Bemondsey. I have his death certificate.

I also may have linked via DNA to a mother's maiden name for Susan's mother Sarah. I think she was a Sarah Chambers. I have DNA matches to a sister Jane Chambers. But I am seeking further evidence. If so their father was a Nathanial Chambers, a farmer in Camberwell.

I also may have traced Henry Harris back to his fathers family to Bilisington, Kent on the Romney Marshes. I have have 5 DNA matches to this family across my mother and uncle.

So I am close to solving this one.

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Monaghan / Re: MARTIN family + MAGHERACLOONE parish
« on: Sunday 18 September 22 00:20 BST (UK)  »
I am looking for a Patrick Martin married to Elizabeth Byrne. I think Elizabeth probably came from Mageracloone (with my GGx3 Anne Byrne who I think was her sister). So I assume Patrick may have come from close by.

Patrick was a Soap Chandler. And was born in the late 1700's/early 1800's.

Patrick and Elizabeth had a daughter Catherine Theresa Martin who married a John Fitzsimons - either in Monaghan or in Newry. Catherine and John then emigrated to Austrailia.

I have a DNA match with an Australian descendent.

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As an update to this.
I found that the family both Harris and Rycroft all moved to Walworth in the early 1830's.
Henry Harris died on Camden Street in 1832.
His daughter Sarah Harris married Edward Wynne a compositor there.
William Rycroft also died on Camden Street in 1838. I am awaiting his death certificate.
His father Richard Rycroft had died on Belgrave St in 1836 (couple of streets away).
They are both buried in St Peter Walworth.

Interestingly William Rycroft was a Print Colourer/Artist. And I discovered that there were a good number of other print colourers living in Trafalgar street and the surrounding streets. In fact when William Rycroft died his wife Susan also moved to Trafalgar street.

Gabriel Bayfield lived at 9 Trafalgar Street (in fact opposite to where Susan moved to) at that time. He was a famous print colourist and had a large team working from  him largely from home. Sometimes whole families were involved - they did the hand coloured prints for Gould and later Darwin"s prints from the Beagle.

I have tracked down about twenty families living around those streets who are registered as print colourers. Often on baptism records and on the census they also refer to themselves as Artists (as Bayfield does himself). When you look at the prints you can see why - they really are beautiful.

In case anyone is interested the other names are: William Webb and all his children, Henry Foley, James Ayton, Joseph Cleere, William Matthew Hart and son William Matthew Hart, William and James Garrad, Charles Chittey and son Charles William Chittey, William Rycroft, John Triptree, Gabriel Bayfield and children Gabriel - later an Independent minister, Thomas - later an independent minister, Mary ann and Maria,

There are also lots of compositors and copper plate printers on these streets.

One of the Compositors is Edward Wynne brother in law to William Rycroft - he lives on Portland street and George street very close to Bayfield.

Thanks all



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In case anyone is reading this later Camden Street is now called Morecombe Street and leads directly off East Street in Walworth (the name was changed in the late 1800s). There were two other Harris familys living in that close area in that rough period.

Abraham Harris who was married to Rosa Jessel and lived on East Street for many years (although Rosa died in 1822). His family is well documented online and on Genie.

And my ancestor Henry Harris who is registered as living in Camden street when he died in 1832 (buried at St Mary Newington).
His Daughter Susan Phillis (nee Harris) Rycroft then lived in Camden Street until her husband died in 1838 (William Rycroft  buried at St Peter Walford). Another Sister Sarah (nee Harris) Wynne also lived close by.
My Harris family moved there from Westminster - St Martin in the fields/Clement Danes. I have always suspected that there must be other family relatives of Henry living in the area.
 

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Nova Scotia birth 1865 J.H. B. Bagenal
« on: Friday 04 February 22 23:45 GMT (UK)  »
And two more

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Nova Scotia birth 1865 J.H. B. Bagenal
« on: Friday 04 February 22 23:44 GMT (UK)  »
Wow the National Archives document is gold dust! Thank you so much. And freely available for anyone to look at - it is folio number 231 page 375/

It is a statement of service.
It tells us the battles he fought in e.g. Battle of Victoria (he states he served under Wellington at the Siege of San Sebastian) and also what he did at the end of the war. He was an adjudant in Fuentearrabbia which is right by where Florentina was brought up in Oyarzun. I do wonder if they ran away together because she was just 17 when they married in Bordeaux.

It also describes his wounds which were a gun shot through the body and arm. I had imagined he had lost his arm to a sword for some reason!. 

I would love to go and read those letters from Robert Sedley Bagenall too. Maybe one day I will make a trip to Sussex. But for now I am very happy - thanks


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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Nova Scotia birth 1865 J.H. B. Bagenal
« on: Friday 04 February 22 08:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the info.

I am pretty sure I found Jonathan Bagenall and Catherine Ridge's 3rd son. He is Edmund Burke Bagenall b 1792. Catherine Ridge is a witness at his wedding in 1819 to Isabella Sherriff

Wierdly he has two weddings recorded one in 1817 and one in 1823 to the same woman. They are by bans and by licence.

The politician Edmund Burke was a friend of the family and gave Catherine Ridge a pension of £100 a year. So another reason why this is probably the third son.

He also predeceased his mother which is fits in with the parliamentary record I posted earlier.

I found an obituary for Edmund in a paper saying he was a journalist in London. He died in 1836.

I also found the birth certificate of another son for John Doyle Bagenall senior and Florentina  b 1920 in Dunkerque - John Symonds Burke Bagenall. He may have died young because I find no later reference to him in the family papers or records in Ceylon. But helps make a slightly stronger case that Edmund Burke Bagenall is the third brother.



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