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Fife / Re: William Scott - Sailor
« on: Wednesday 21 December 22 17:40 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I'm very pleased to have the bible. It appears to have gone to the eldest child still alive at the time of their parents death until it reached Thomas Scott who was only the fourth eldest of William Scott and Annie Carfrae Rennie's children. After that it went to Thomas' eldest, Emily. She had no children so my grandmother inherited it after she passed. The significance of it was only recently found by myself a few weeks ago when wondering what this old looking book is, opening it and seeing some familiar names inside.

I was looking through the pages last night to see if their were any inscriptions written inside, sadly nothing was found. The only thing I found was a pressed flower that had long since been forgotten about.

I was looking at the virtual volumes on SP of Dunino and have found some entries regarding an Andrew Anderson that may be ours. First seen on December 14th 1795 on page 422 and last seen on June 9th 1799 on page 443. Other pages he was seen inbetween were, 425, 428, 434 and 439. They mostly describe him getting a salary. One entry taken just 10 days before James and Ann married describes him as a Prosecutor (what's that in relation to the church??) and states something about the Schoolmaster, however i'm failing to transcribe it.

I like your theory on Andrew being a brother that turned to a father figure and perhaps is the Andrew I mention above. This matches up closely with the 1841 census which puts Ann's year of birth at 1772.

"Also - to Andrew Anderson
Prosecutor from Jan 2 to June
?. The session in ?
of the ? of the schoolmaster
salary had ? to pay
the prosecutor, when the
schoolmaster ? ?
?

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Fife / Re: William Scott - Sailor
« on: Tuesday 20 December 22 13:56 GMT (UK)  »
More photos

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Fife / Re: William Scott - Sailor
« on: Tuesday 20 December 22 13:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nepean

I'm afraid the bible only contains births of relatively recent births. The only sign of it belonging to James and Ann was that their names were printed on the inside cover. I'll attach a photo of it, you can see it's a bit worse for wear.

I do wonder what brought them to Edinburgh to get married, fashionable perhaps? I've seen ancestors from East Lothian do the same.

Thanks for providing the information of their deaths. It seems possible that Ann was the one buried in 1841. As Forforian says it is strange that they would use the father's name instead of James Brown's. However, Ann's father was definitely named Andrew as i'm sure you will know Nepean, it states that on their marriage note. I've not been able to confirm who this Andrew would be. My only guess is through birth records, an Andrew Anderson and Mary Wilson had a daughter named Ann in 1779 in Kingsbarns. This would make Ann only just 17 when married, young but not impossible.

Ann's father, Andrew, was described as a teacher in "Denoonie" I had previously posted here asking for a transcription of the marriage note to decipher where Denoonie was. It was concluded that it was most likely Dunino, just North of Anstruther. I've not been able to find any Andrew's around the area that were teachers.

I live in Edinburgh, relatively near to where the Scott's had their Grocer's when the moved from Anstruther.

When the 1921 census recently came out I discovered that my gt gt grandfather, Thomas Scott, was working as a Church Officer, this perhaps explains why he was given the Family Bible. It was short-lived as he was back to being a Grocer by the time of his death in 1928. His wife carried on the shop after that.



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Fife / Re: William Scott - Sailor
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 00:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, Nepean

Sorry for the late reply, I must have missed it when I had originally posted this. I’ve come back to it upon doing further research on the Scott’s.

I’m interested in the fact that you have found Lilly Scott’s death. This was unknown to me and would be interested to know the source of this.

I descend from William Scott of Juniper Green who had a large family as you stated. His son, Thomas Scott is my gt gt grandfather. He was a Grocer like his father and had a shop on Easter Road in Leith.

I have a Family Bible that has been passed down 5 generations so far to my grandmother. It first belonged James Brown and Ann Anderson of Anstruther who you mentioned. The significance of the bible was not known until I recently discovered it and found James and Ann’s name inscribed on the inner front cover.

I’m currently looking at a clockmaker named George Lumsden from Pittenweem. Not a relation as far as I’m aware. However, my grandmother has one of his grandfather clocks that was built around 1830’s.
I suspect that it may have come from that side of the family and am looking to see if they were connected in anyway. One thing I found about George was that the artistic effects on his clock faces were done by a man named James Brown who was a joiner in Pittenweem. Definitely clutching at straws to find a connection ;D most likely whoever bought it just liked it.

Callum

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help deciphering marriage note
« on: Friday 10 June 22 20:57 BST (UK)  »
From the minutes of Denny kirk session:

            Denny March 5th 1792
The Session met and Constituted Apeared John
Gray and Isobel Brown and Acknowledged that they
were clandestandly married at Denny the 25th May
1791 and being sutably exorted and rebucked were
absolved from the scandal and they also payed their fine.

Thanks for finding that, very interesting!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help deciphering marriage note
« on: Thursday 09 June 22 16:39 BST (UK)  »
    ....... clandestinely at Denny the 25th
   day of May 1791 and produced lines to that
   effect

Further down the page another couple were mentioned clandestinely marrying at Falkirk. Must have been a lot of it about.  ;)

Thank you. Interesting, I've never come across that before!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help deciphering marriage note
« on: Thursday 09 June 22 16:15 BST (UK)  »
I need some help trying to decipher this marriage note from 1791, I have most of the words but there are a few I can't seem to work out.

John gray and Isobel Brown and? acknowledged?
god that they were ?? ?? at Denny the 25th
day of May 1791 and produced ?? to that
??


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Discharged from Marine Service
« on: Thursday 21 April 22 17:27 BST (UK)  »
My Scots grandad got a tiny tattoo on back of  his hand of a bird between his thump and first finger  mostly because of peer pressure he said sailors were considered wimps if they didn't have a tattoo ! * He was in Malta too.

Just realised I've got the wrong person... This man was born exactly a year to the day before my John Cameron in the same place. I had assumed he had lied about his age to make himself a year older. Another document gave parent's names which showed me I had the wrong man.  ;D

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Discharged from Marine Service
« on: Thursday 21 April 22 13:06 BST (UK)  »
"Run Malta"

This means he deserted his ship in Malta.


Tony

Thanks Tony, I'll have to look further into this now!

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