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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Sunday 20 March 22 13:05 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks both,

Mary lived with the family until her death in 65 and a few people in the family remember her. I have her death certificate now. On her death certificate it gives her job as wife or widow of George Henry Clarke. Unfortunately there is no maiden name on the certificate. Joe reported the death. On Joseph's marriage certificate it gives Joe's father as George Henry Clarke. So Joe at least was convinced his dad was George Henry Clarke and that George Henry was married to his mum. Enough for him to put it on his marriage certificate and her death certificate.

On the 1939 register there is a Joseph Clarke living a few doors away from the address on Joe's marriage certificate with the same birthdate and a Mary Clarke born September 1899. Mary is listed as being married but there is no George Henry on the records. I'm quite confident this is Joe and Mary and that Joe's dad had left the family by this point. There is another blocked out record on the register probably of Joe's younger sibling Patrick. I've been told Patrick had learning difficulties and never lived apart from Mary even as an adult.

I know that Joe had two brothers known to him, George who was older and Patrick who was younger.


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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Friday 18 March 22 20:33 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the recommendation. The Thomas William records on ancestry are from one of my cousins and one of my uncles. I've spoken to them and they don't know where the recommendation came from. George Henry Clarke is on Joe's marriage certificate and on Mary's death certificate. The only thing linking them up is the July 11th date.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Friday 18 March 22 12:30 GMT (UK)  »
Just an update. We received Mary's death certificate today. It didn't contain her maiden name unfortunately but we confirmed it was valid by the signatorys address. It also confirmed her spouse was George Henry Clarke, a farm labourer. On the death certificate her occupation was "widow OR wife of George Henry Clarke, farm labourer". We know that George left when Joseph was still a child. My focus now is on trying to track down a George Henry.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Friday 25 February 22 15:44 GMT (UK)  »
When I looked it just had Mary Clarke listed twice. I couldn't find the second person.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Friday 25 February 22 14:18 GMT (UK)  »
Just an update on this,

I confirmed with my uncle that the address on Mary's burial certificate was a match for the road she lived on. From that I have ordered the corresponding death certificate.

I ordered Joseph's death certificate and his dob is the same as his suspected record on the 1939 register so I'm classing the 1939 entry as a confirmed record.

Joseph's death certificate says he was born in Nottingham but I think this may be incorrect. There were two Joseph Clarkes born in Nottingham in 1924. The maiden names of the mother's on those two records are 'Streets' and 'Fenning' there is another in 1925 for a 'Booth'.

I've checked in Irish genealogy if any of those names match with Mary's birthdate of 28th September 1899 but no luck so far. I shall await her death certificate and get the maiden name from that.

Thanks again for all of your help.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Sunday 20 February 22 12:14 GMT (UK)  »
Got it! Thank you. Tried again on my laptop and it came up with the results. I got an address which matches the area where my dad grew up and a name in the "ceremony performed by" column. Do you know if this refers to the funeral director, priest or individual who arranged the funeral? Thank you again.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Sunday 20 February 22 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
I found it via this site
https://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/cemeteryrecords

Takes you here
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

I realise that it may not be her but I would think that you would have to pay for any record - death certificate or this burial record.

There may be newspaper death announcements re this Mary.

Thabks Heywood. I can't seem to find Mary on that site. I found a Mary in the general register though. I'm going to see if there were any obituaries in the evening post.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Sunday 20 February 22 10:18 GMT (UK)  »
Have you got Joseph,s army record.
This will give his  age and date of attestment and hismarriage details.

Thanks Lola. I have his military record number but have to apply directly to the army to release the records which could take a few months at the moment if the records are still in tact. Going to give it a go though. I have Joseph's marriage record already.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Joseph Clarke married to Ivy Stacey
« on: Sunday 20 February 22 09:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Heywood.

Do you know if it's possible to view death records before ordering a copy at the relevant office? There's quite a few unsures from Nottingham I have and I would rather view the records before purchasing them.

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