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Flintshire / Re: Robert Jones ? -1774 MP
« on: Saturday 28 February 26 23:55 GMT (UK)  »
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/cambs/vol6/pp19-30

A History of the County of Cambridge and the Isle of Ely: Volume 6 states that "Another sale was postponed in 1767, (fn. 85) and Babraham was eventually bought in 1770 by Robert Jones, an East India Company director. (fn. 86) Jones's only child Anne married Col. James Whorwood Adeane, and to their son, Robert Jones Adeane, Jones devised Babraham on his death in 1774. (fn. 87).

So there is no evidence he had a son Thomas in Chertsey, nor that his surname was carried forward by his descendants.

Queenie  :)

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Flintshire / Re: Robert Jones ? -1774 MP
« on: Saturday 28 February 26 23:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Can I just confirm that you traced back to Robert (d.1774) yourself using primary sources (i.e. records of baptism, marriage and burial, wills, land records), and not online trees? Some of them seem very dodgy, and I am not quite sure about the veracity...

For example, they have Thomas Jones who was buried in Chertsey in 1826 aged 87, giving him an estimated year of birth of 1739, as being baptised in London to Robert and Jane Jones, but there is also a Thomas Jones baptised in 1740 in Chertsey to father John, so why this jump from London? Where is the evidence for this as opposed to the most logical baptism being the Chertsey one?

Also, was this Thomas the one who married Sarah West in Chertsey in 1762? If so, he signed by mark, and a son of an M.P. would have almost certainly been fully literate.

Maybe I'm missing something (it is rather late!) but I just wanted to confirm.

Queenie  :)

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The Common Room / Re: Database Error Please try again. If you come back to this error screen report to
« on: Monday 23 February 26 15:42 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I have been getting this message quite a lot too.

Queenie  :)

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Cardiganshire Lookup Requests / Re: Albert HAINE b. circa 1867 Cardigan(shire)? LOOK UP please?
« on: Saturday 21 February 26 21:27 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: dw1968 on Saturday 07 July 12 20:09 BST (UK)
Hello, I wonder if anyone can help as I think I've got about as far as I can.  I suspect there is some mystery, or some missing records, or even a scandal!  All I know is that my great-grandfather Albert HAINE died in 1926 (Pontypridd).  He was a Farm Bailiff in Lydney and married my great-grandmother, Georgina PREEST in 1919 (they were both listed as living in St Briavel's at the time - Georgina was quite a lot younger than Albert, and I wonder if he was married previously).  I have the record of Albert's death which gives his birth date as approx 1868.  I also have their marriage certificate - they married in Lydney Chapel.  I have lots of info about the PREESTS but everything I've looked for about Albert leads to blind alleys.  The marriage certificate lists Albert's father as 'Fred Haine, Farmer, deceased.'  I have followed leads on Albert HAINE, HAIN, HAINES, HAIME.  Something doesn't add up.  I would be amazingly grateful if anyone can shed any light here.  Thanks in advance.

From 2012, so you not kidding about your long search! Some discrepancies between this post and yours, specifically: was Fred Haine a labourer or a farmer? Also, is Albert your great-grandfather, or your great-great-grandfather?

I ask the latter question, because the answer to this search may be DNA. However, you have a better chance as Albert's great-grandson, than as his great-great-grandson, because you are a generation closer to him and so the DNA inheritance will be stronger. Have you considered testing with Anc* (the biggest database)? If you have already done so, do you have any Haine/Haynes matches?

Regarding the marriage certificate, was Albert down as a bachelor? I presume he was as you haven't mentioned marital status. Also, who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Queenie  :)

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Early c1800 lookup request
« on: Friday 20 February 26 15:04 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ColC on Friday 20 February 26 14:50 GMT (UK)
Looking at the census returns below it looks likely that John Earley was born in Surrey.

Or that he believed he was born in Surrey, but could have come over when he was a very young child. I have seen it before, so I just wanted to mention it. Entirely possible that his entry in a Catholic baptism register from Bermondsey has not yet been uploaded online.

Queenie  :)

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Early c1800 lookup request
« on: Friday 20 February 26 14:14 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Thursday 19 February 26 23:37 GMT (UK)
I can’t see the original marriage record for Sarah Anne Bruce to John Early (1846).
Who were the witnesses at that marriage?

The record has been muddled up with another on Anc*, it is actually on page 135 of 165. The witnesses were F Collins and Julia Harrison.

Quote from: Neale1961 on Thursday 19 February 26 23:37 GMT (UK)
Considering Queenie’s previously mentioned Roman Catholic religion for this family, do you think that the EARLY family originated in Ireland?

I too was wondering whether the family were Irish, specifically whether John had actually been born in Ireland and then migrated to England with his family as a small child. If so, it will be very difficult to trace his line back further, as Irish baptism records can be very patchy depending on the parish, especially when going back this far into the 1800s.

Was Sarah Ann Bruce from a Catholic family? I ask because a 38-year-old Sarah Ann Earley, formerly Bruce, was baptised into Catholicism on 23 July 1869 in Islington. Only problem is her father is down as John Bruce (not James as on the marriage certificate); her mother is Margaret White.

Queenie  :)

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Kerry / Re: Martin Carey
« on: Thursday 19 February 26 19:57 GMT (UK)  »
The Ballinvoher parish registers can be viewed for free via the NLI:
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0647?locale=en

Unfortunately, as with many Irish parishes, there are gaps in the registers. Still may be worth a look to establish the various Carey families living there at that time.

Queenie  :)

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Kerry / Re: Martin Carey
« on: Thursday 19 February 26 19:42 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: redjack on Thursday 19 February 26 19:30 GMT (UK)
He marries Mary Sullivan in 1854 London and together they have six children.

Have you ordered his marriage certificate? That will give you his father's name and occupation.

Queenie  :)

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: John Early c1800 lookup request
« on: Thursday 19 February 26 19:33 GMT (UK)  »
You did not mention this in your post, but are you aware that John was a Catholic? At least, he baptised his children Catholic, and he and his wife Sarah are down as such on their workhouse admission record.

His sons Edwin and Alfred were baptised at the Catholic church of St. Mary Moorfields. A useful part of Catholic baptisms is that they provide the names of the sponsors (i.e. godparents), who are often relatives of the parents. In my experience (my father is Irish so I've seen a lot of Catholic baptism records), the godparents were often siblings or siblings-in-law to the parents, or occasionally cousins.

Edwin's godparents were John Erley and Margaret Derry, whilst Alfred's were John Earley and Ann McCarthy. Given that John is unlikely to have had a brother with the same name (although not impossible), could this perhaps be John's father? I don't usually see grandfathers as godparents, though.

Interestingly, there appears to have been a third son born to John and Sarah, many years after their first two. In 1872, a two-month-old child, Arthur William Earley, was baptised to John Earley and Sarah Ann Earley, formerly Bruce. The godparents were Edwin (unusual for someone to be made godparent to their own brother, but there was a large age gap) and Johanna Earley. Sadly, Arthur died in infancy.

Queenie  :)

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